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EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow

Views on BG | September 2, 2008, Tuesday

from The Wall Street Journal

September 2, 2008

By MARC CHAMPION and JOHN W. MILLER in Brussels, and DAVID GAUTHIER-VILLARS and ALESSANDRA GALLONI in Paris

The European Union pledged Monday to help Georgia recover from Russia's continuing military intervention, but fears over Europe's dependence on Russia for energy and of splitting the EU prevented moves to pressure Moscow.

As hundreds of thousands of Georgians protested in the streets of Tbilisi against the presence of Russian troops, the EU's emergency summit in Brussels produced condemnation of Russia's actions in Georgia and of its decision to recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia, two separatist territories in Georgia, as independent.

"The question is, what does Russia want?" said French President Nicolas Sarkozy at a postsummit press conference. He said it was now up to Moscow to decide whether to isolate itself politically by keeping its troops in Georgia or else withdraw and begin talks on status.

Russian officials including President Dmitry Medvedev, made similar demands in the run-up to Monday's summit, warning the EU would have to decide as it responds to events in Georgia what kind of relationship it wants with Moscow.

EU leaders agreed in their final statement to send Mr. Sarkozy and EU officials to Moscow Sept. 8 to assess Russian intentions. After that, the bloc will draw up a full response ahead of an EU-Russia summit in November, effectively giving Moscow two months' grace before any potential EU action.

The EU also said it would set up a donor conference for Georgia in the near future, discuss new free-trade and visa-facilitation agreements with Georgia and send an assessment team to Tbilisi ahead of a potential EU monitoring mission to help observe the cease-fire.

Still, the summit's final statement did little to penalize Moscow beyond suspending meetings on a new trade-and-investment agreement until Russia has pulled its troops back in accordance with the cease-fire deal Mr. Sarkozy brokered last month. Russia says it is already abiding by the deal.

"Russia represents a huge part of the world for Europe," French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said in an interview, summing up Europe's caution in provoking Russia. "If you ask me what does...this or that [Caucasus] country mean to Europe - all of this represents energy, gas and oil."

Russia is the EU's biggest supplier of natural gas and oil.
Mr. Kouchner said it wasn't realistic to adopt a confrontational approach toward Russia.

Instead, he said, Europe needed to continue its dialogue with Russia, a country that is a key player on hot-button diplomatic issues, including attempts to rein in Iran's nuclear ambitions.

"The U.S. isn't going to wage war against the Russian army; that's clear," Mr. Kouchner said, his spacious office adorned with detailed military maps of Georgia. "We can't act according to the immediate interests of a U.S. administration that is going to change, or according to the impatience - which is totally legitimate - of certain former Communist-bloc countries."

EU leaders soft-pedaled any moves that could split the bloc, or the trans-Atlantic alliance - a longstanding Russian goal that Western diplomats say Moscow again appears to be pushing hard.

"The Georgian issue has brought the EU closer together," said Finnish Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb, who has been closely involved in the Georgia crisis. The U.S., too, he said, has worked hard to keep in step with the EU. He said he had spoken with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice 15 times since the crisis started, and he showed off cuff links she gave him.

The U.S. has been "very quiet about what our assistance plans are and we've been reticent about the negative steps we may take toward Moscow" because Washington wants the EU to take the lead in addressing the Georgia crisis, said Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew J. Bryza, the U.S. State Department's point man in the Caucasus. He was speaking in the margins of a debate on the Georgia crisis hosted by the German Marshall Fund of the United States in Brussels Monday.

Still, tensions remain between, on the one side, the U.S. and EU countries such as Poland that see Russia's actions as an immediate threat, and, on the other, EU members that don't. "Either we will get a united, effective EU response or we will not be credible," said Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, speaking at the debate.

While Moscow's message to the EU has been largely conciliatory, reassuring Europe that no return to the Cold War is on the table, Russia's leaders have made clear their desire to see Europe distance itself from Washington's tougher line on events in Georgia.

Russia's President Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in recent days have also sought to paint Russia as a new power center willing to stand up to U.S. hegemony. They have denounced Washington's supporters in Europe as shortsighted stooges and called for construction of a new security organization in Europe to supercede the U.S.-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

"The authority will decline of those countries who've taken the line of servicing the foreign-policy interests of other countries," Mr. Putin told German ARD television late Friday, in an apparent reference to U.S. allies in Europe. Poland, for example, recently signed an agreement to host U.S. ballistic-missile interceptors. "We're relying on the support of our European partners," said Mr. Putin.

Russian officials appear increasingly confident the example of Georgia will make NATO's European members less willing to consider expanding the West's military alliance further into Russia's newly defined sphere of influence, a continuing U.S. goal.

"The unified West that was there in the Cold War is gone and won't come back," said Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs, an influential Russian foreign-policy journal. On Russia's reassertion of a sphere of influence, he added: "I think, under certain conditions, Europe would be willing to accept this, but not the United States."

U.S. Vice Preisdent Dick Cheney makes a tour of U.S. allies among Russia's ex-Soviet neighbors next week, avoiding Moscow.

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Author: Stealthy, 2 Sep 2008 13:11:49
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
Supposed visit of Mr. Cheney who is going to resign soon probably means to test new unreliable allies for allegiance to US foreign policy .

It seems like Russians would not be against it .
Author: Kolegialen, 3 Sep 2008 01:18:06
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
"Russia represents a huge part of the world for Europe," French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said in an interview, summing up Europe's caution in provoking Russia. "If you ask me what does...this or that [Caucasus] country mean to Europe - all of this represents energy, gas and oil."Russia is the EU's biggest supplier of natural gas and oil.
Mr. Kouchner said it wasn't realistic to adopt a confrontational approach toward Russia."

As much as I do not like French people in general, I have to admire the honest tone of the French Foreign Minister.
That kind of honest matter of fact statement is impossible in the States - American people can never handle truth, so they want to be bullshitted - just tell me that it isn't about oil!
Aha - got you! It's about oil! Don't deny it!


If the Americans think that they have a friend in their impending confrontational attitude with Russia - they can take that!
EU is tired of confrontations, and couldn't care less....
Author: Funguy, 3 Sep 2008 01:55:11
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
Kolegialen, I agree, The US has run out of cards to play. Until now they offered military security to Europe, but their military is now stretched very thin by foreign, meaningless wars that NATO members were compeled to play a part in.

Citizens all over the world have long been asking why. It seems only Americans have been too distracted to ask the same question. Finally, some governments are listening to the people.

Or is it something else? Maybe the iron grip of The Russian Federation on the simple need of warth in the coming winter makes these leaders realize that their heads may lie in the snow soon if they do not kiss a little bear ass and stop searching the sky for the eagle that never lands.

Yes, it's all about energy. The time for political ideals is over and the time for WHY THE HELL DON'T MY POP-TARTS GET WARM is upon us. By the way, only Americans eat pop-tarts.
Author: Kolegialen, 3 Sep 2008 02:55:40
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
Funguy,
I have no idea what is your point, but Americans have been asking the war question since the beginning of the Iraq war - in fact because of that constant popular, proverbial cold feet, you almost lost it.
Now it seems to me as if you guys are winning it, and Iraq seems to be becoming a normal country - a major boon for the world, BTW.

As a Bulgarian, I wouldn't have an issue if Bush said - "yes, we are going there to protect the long term stability of energy supply.
We think that forcefully changing Iraq from a clan based society to an institution based one, will insure the long term stability of the oil supply.
Institution based societies are much more responsive to the markets and are much better participants in the Global structure, than clan based ones, which usually tend to concentrate power in the hands of one individual only" - who can blame a government looking out for the long term stability of anything!

Instead he had to bullshit about freedom and weapons and so on - all because the majority of the people in the US couldn't handle being talked to as adults, in the way the French Foreign Minister can apparently trust the intelligence of his fellow countrymen enough to tell them - yes, it's about energy.
It doesn't help of course that Bush has the eloquence of say "Stealthy" or something ...

But, alas, what do you expect from a culture that has turned Machiavelli into a dirty word...
Author: Funguy, 3 Sep 2008 08:22:38
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
"I have no idea what is your point, but Americans have been asking the war question since the beginning of the Iraq war"

I guess my point is 'senseless foreign wars' and the American people letting Bush waste the nations children and resources based on lies. Gee, that wasn't so difficult, was it?

We apparently have different opinions about it, but it seems that Bush's war for oil is hurting the economy anyway with high gas prices leading to high food prices, etc. And, like Europe, being dependent on other countries to supply your own needs.

The US has far more resources than Europe does, though, and is finally talking about tapping them.

Also, I haven't heard of much anti-war protest, not even much in the news from America about the war at all.
Author: Kolegialen, 3 Sep 2008 20:24:29
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
"I guess my point is 'senseless foreign wars' and the American people letting Bush waste the nations children and resources based on lies."

OK Fleur,
This is a perfect example of standard American thinking.
They get their talking points from their respective ideological role models, and run with it.
Then there are IASBs who are repeating the "this is the greatest country" crap, so no variety at all.

The US lost only 4000 people in this so called "war" which is nothing in any contextual terms.
Many of the soldiers, and specially blacks and hispanic ones, which is probably the majority of the armed forces, are statistically safer in Iraq, then they would've been in their own neighborhood, which is a killing field solely based on the culture there.

Bush lied, perhaps because he is dealing with children, as you said, who couldn't take the truth.

The truth is energy security and so the question then is did this war secured the long term energy supply, or did it endanger it?
This is the only debate worth having about Iraq, but it's one that would be labeled "Machiavellian" by the majority Americans, even the ones fancying themselves "open-minded" while their absolutist principles inevitably betraying their shallow puritan roots;)
Author: iamsoobored, 3 Sep 2008 22:29:07
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
kolegialen,

What is betraying your shallow Bulgarian roots? Too much US bashing? Barking and biting the hand that feeds you? And your envy of Taro is showing, dude. The only reason you resent foreigners like Taro is because he went to Bulgaria and was able to get a good job over there, and you had to go all the way to San Francisco to get a good job. San Francisco is the homosexual capital of the world, dude!
Author: Kolegialen, 3 Sep 2008 22:33:52
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
"San Francisco is the homosexual capital of the world, dude!"

Curiously enough, located in the "Greatest Country in World", LOL:))))
fags...
Author: Kolegialen, 3 Sep 2008 22:37:13
EU Leaders Put Off Moves to Pressure Moscow
BTW I have no Bulgarian roots - I am all Bulgarian - roots, ass, head, head2, - the works.

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