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Commenting article: Bulgaria Workers Make 15 Times Less than EU Counterparts

The average monthly household income in Bulgaria is 8 times lower compared to the average for the EU.

The data belongs to Eurostat, the Statistical Office of the European Communities, and was presented during a national discussion forum for flexible security organized by the Confederation of Independent Trade Unions in Bulgaria (KNSB).

According to the Union's analysis the average net salary in Bulgaria's industry and service sector is 15 times lower than the average for the European Union Member States, while the salaries' share of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is one of the lowest in Europe - 36%.

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#1
Taro - 28 Apr 2009 // 12:20:14

I was born in Spain, raised in Germany, lived a couple of years in Brazil, travelled in Asia (my mother is japanese, so one of my business partners used to say, he is half-japanese, half-german, he knows the meaning of the word discipline. ;-) ). I think I have a good imagination about people and their mentality.
What I would mainly criticise about the work mentality in BG, is that there is no believing, that you can be successful by a good performance. That if you are doing a good job, people will be willing to pay you better, and also to give you jobs in the future. People here (not all of course, but a lot) tend to think, I would work better, if I would be paid better. But who will believe them, they will do so?! They still believe in the phrase, they pretend to pay me, so I pretend to work.

But this only works in communism, not in 21. century...

Sorry!

Greets
Taro

#2
Dutch - 28 Apr 2009 // 10:19:30

"Have you all been in different places to be able to judge, or just the small village town in Germany and maybe Ireland are your guiding points?"

Yes....I have done my fair share of traveling. Besides, I was born and raised in Holland and there you didn't really have to travel abroad in order to get an idea/feel how things were being done in other countries, as these countries came to us in the shape of big numbers of immigrants (and not only Marocans and Turkish).

I worked in total 20 years in Holland before I moved to Bulgaria and in those 20 years I really lost count from how many different countries I have had colleagues, so I have a reasonable understanding how things are being done elsewhere. Within Europe there's quite a big difference (especially in efficiency and punctuality) between people from north and north-west European countries compared to south and south-east European countries. Outside Europe...10 times rather an Asian than an African, 10 times rather a North American than a South American.

#3
NellieotAmerica - 28 Apr 2009 // 00:55:01

Sveto

"Have you all been in different places to be able to judge, or just the small village town in Germany and maybe Ireland are your guiding points?"

We have been and continue to be all over the world--in my case, since the late 1960ies.So, yeah, we have a pretty good idea how things are done in different places. Germany and Japan and even China are killing it! The US, not so much anymore.

You want to hear the latest outrage? Benz is going to contribute 200 million dollars to Chrysler's pension fund. Outrageous! Mercs are selling like hot bread and Chrysler and GM can't sell that expensive scrap metal they are producing, but their workers expect pensions. Imbeciles. I am proud to say, I have NEVER owned and American-made car and I never will.

#4
NellieotAmerica - 28 Apr 2009 // 00:47:29

Creep

You are lucky your insulation technician trained in Germany and not in the US, dude! You can't get good help around here for love nor for money. You get mostly Mexicans, Guatemalans, etc.....who don't speak a word of English and have never trained anywhere. There used to be fairly decent Polish roofers and asbestos abatement technicians, all gone back to work in EU countries now.

#5
CreepyS - 28 Apr 2009 // 00:32:33

Taro is right - I just paid for an external thermal insulation on my flat and the people did a very good job - it was done in a week and with a very good quality. Last year some guys spent 4 months to do the insulation of two floors on the top of the same building and were 30% more expensive than my company.

I somehow asked the boss (who worked like the others) how comes they are so fast and so good 'I worked for several years in Germany and learned everything there' he said - well, including to start working at 8:00 and not taking too much coffee breaks.

#6
Sveto - 27 Apr 2009 // 23:52:21

So what exactly from your criticism you think is not valid outside of BG? Have you all been in different places to be able to judge, or just the small village town in Germany and maybe Ireland are your guiding points? Wake up and smell the coffee! IT is the same allover the world. There are day by day less low-qualified jobs, youth is lazy and won’t study for sports not to mention and there is so many bumps around that dream of having a BMW or just a sufficient life and do absolutely nothing. Do you know how many Americans have that dream and have actually fulfilled it?

#7
CJB - 27 Apr 2009 // 18:56:07

"if you notice in BG, inwork days cafes ALWAYS full, many with young people scheming how to get BMW without working..."

Yes, they cannot all be students...

#8
cobra - 27 Apr 2009 // 18:53:01

you are right Dutch, any job is a good job as long as it is honest work, sure some jobs may pay low but as long as you doign something, mych better than cafe sitting

if you notice in BG, inwork days cafes ALWAYS full, many with young people scheming how to get BMW without working...

#9
Dutch - 27 Apr 2009 // 17:28:22

"I earn in BG good money, I could afford with that a decent life in Germany too. If you are well educated and willing to work, it's also in Bulgaria possible to have a good life. And you don't need to become a mutra or politician."

Exactly...

If I follow the 15 times difference as stated in the article, me and my wife combined would be above the million net income per year elsewhere in the (western part of the) EU....We also have an income we could survive on easily in the Netherlands.

I think many of the young people owe it to themselves they have little income, as there are chances enough to make a decent living without the necessity to resort to criminal activities. This is not only Bulgarians, also quite a number of foreigners living in BG show the same attitude. I know plenty who are extremely picky about work.....saying "I did not study for this or that, so I won't apply for that job, because I can not and I am too old to study more" and therefor stay unemployed, sitting at home or behind a coffee in a cafe complaining that life sukcs. Imho that's pure BS, as the saying goes "when there's a will, there's a way".

Once I was a barkeeper here in Golden Sands which didn't pay very well and I definitely did not study for that....but I did the job because I knew staying at home only costs money and for the labor market it is not a good thing to show on your CV you have some years of unemployment. I think also thanks to that I took that barkeeping job in Golden Sands I am doing a hell of a lot better now than those arrogant sukcers who laughed in my face "hahahaha, a barkeeper, that's way below my dignity".

Every once in a while these who laughed even have the guts to pay me a visit to ask for money because they can not pay the friggin electricity bill or the rent. ......and as I have said before, I don't feel any compassion for lazy bastards....no free rides on my expense for them, they obviously have to learn the hard way.

#10
Taro - 27 Apr 2009 // 16:07:25

They also are 15 times less productivley then the rest in Europe...

Shop clerks used to hang out in the entrance of the shops, in the left hand a cup of coffee (delgo) in the other a cigaret while talking into their mobile phones squeezed between ear and shoulder. It's hard to bypass them when you want to enter the shop.

I earn in BG good money, I could afford with that a decent life in Germany too. If you are well educated and willing to work, it's also in Bulgaria possible to have a good life. And you don't need to become a mutra or politician.

Greets
Taro

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