The leader of the ethnic Turkish party has expressed reserved confidence that his formation will be among the ruling parties after the general elections in the summer.
"I pray to God, but who knows," Ahmed Dogan jovially said when asked whether or not his party will be part of the country's next government.
Ahmed Dogan, whose party Movement for Rights and Freedoms (MRF) is part of the current Socialist-led ruling coalition and is a key player in the country's political life, appeared surprisingly in parliament on Wednesday. He is known to be among the lawmakers playing truant most often and has attended no more than ten parliamentary session during the last four years.
The occasion for his presence in parliament turned out to be the 65th anniversary of his party fellow Yunal Lyutfi....
I'm sure Dogan's presence in government will be a boost to fellow Turks like baba Nellie. God knows (or in Nellies case 'allah knows') if Dogan's party boosts their parliamentary standing, darta turkniya Nellie might even scuttle back to our great country - lets just pray it never happens..............
"I am sublimating my anger..."
You have no reason to be angry with me. I've treated you politely and courteously for far longer than most people would have done in the same circumstances.
You've been derogatory, degrading, insulting, and thanks to another poster the word, "vulgar", also comes to mind. Sex with an 18-year-old missionary". A disgusting idea.
You speak of a man making love to a woman who is described as his prospective 4th wife,but thinks better of it and backs off, and then you ask, "How sexy is that?"! You manage to bring sex into almost anything. You must be obsessed with the subject.
Our modern society has become so sex-oriented, that many think that someone using a bit of moral restraint is abnormal!
One thing is certain: No, I haven't seen the show, but by looking at what's been posted about it, I can say that watching it will never give you a true picture of the Church. What you're looking at, if it's true at all, is a depiction of life in a splinter sect which might have had its origin in the Church, but nothing more than that.
As to my being the only QUALIFIED source you could have gotten your information from, I meant that I don't know for sure, but I may safely assume that no one else on the forum is even a member. I hold the higher priesthood of the Church, and am far better qualified to answer any serious questions than anyone else who posts here.
But no, you chose to google and came up with such weird stuff that it would have made me shy away from the Church, too. You asked why other churhes are aligned against us, and I told you why. You're just another weapon in the battle, nothing more.
The Church has withstood everything from murdering its founder to a bomb attempt on the Salt Lake temple. (The only damage was a few splinters off one of the doors.)
As one of the Elders remarked afterwards, "I''m glad I won't have to account for that at judgement".
So people like you are nothing new to the Church, except that you've been persistenty derogatory and vulgar about it, and you aimed your criticism at a single person.
You are missing the point. There is nothing wrong about a man showing sexual restraint. Quite the opposite. I think a man showing sexual restraint is a real turn-on. It has NEVER happened to me. That's why I am so fascinated with Mormon men. It could be an interesting experience.
Oh, and another thing - there is nothing vulgar about sex, your whole Church is based on sex, procreation, and the family. Can you have families and procreation without sex? Virgin birth is only possible if you are Catholic. I rest my case.
WW wrote: "I know your industry hasn't been hit by the recession as much so I'm guessing you're still having fun, huh?"
I shudder to think what kind of industry you are in - prostitution comes to mind, drug smuggling, gun running, terrorism, armed robbery........all of the above?
"Can you have families and procreation without sex?"
No, you can't, but sex is a very private thing between the individuals involved. As a female columnist once worded it, "sex is not a spectator sport".
Here in Germany, it's almost impossible to avoid porn films on TV after midnight. I don't watch any more than I have to, but what I see is pure crap. These flims are shot scene-by-scene, and I can't imagine anyone with the endurance that an uninterrupted performance would need.
So yes, if I may word it that way, there's a big difference between discreet sex and lurid sex. I long for the old days, when the camera discreetly panned away when things got hot. I'm not interested in sitting through a quarter hour of someone else's sex life.
As to WW'S accusation of vulgarity, have you ever seen me use the foul language which is common on this forum? In a fit of anger, possibly, but not as a general rule. I simply don't use that kind.
As one of the presidents of the Church once worded it, "Profanity is the protest of an ignorant mind against its inability to express itself".
Well, I know you stick by your principles only when they are convenient. No need to remind me.
I don't put on a show, lambchop. That's all me. And it's quite sad that you deem yourself important enough for a stranger to put on a show for you or for the ragtag bunch of logically-impaired refuse and trolls who have just rediscovered the wheel of trolling inhabiting this forum as of late.
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