Skinheads' Plan to Kill Obama Foiled

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Skinheads' Plan to Kill Obama Foiled US authorities arrested two neo-Nazis, who have allegedly planned to assassinate the Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Photo by BGNES

Two neo-Nazis, who have allegedly planned to assassinate the US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama in a murder spree targeting more than 100 black people, appeared in a court, federal agents said, cited by BBC.

Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowartaccused are accused of making threats to kill Obama and of possessing an unregistered firearm and conspiracy to steal from a licensed gun dealer.

Agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) said the men, aged 18 and 20, had made their first appearance before a court in Tennessee on Monday after being arrested last week in Crockett County in the same state.

An ATF official said agents had seized a rifle, a sawn-off shotgun and three pistols during the arrests.

The court documents quoted the two men as saying that they would dress up in white tuxedos and top hats then drive their car as fast as possible toward Senator Obama, shooting at him from the windows.

The two men have not yet entered a plea but are due to appear in court again later this week.

Mr Obama said he was not worried by the news and it was "not who America is".

He told reporters that "these kinds of hate groups" had been marginalised by the election campaign and were not part of America's future.

Mr Obama, who if elected will become the first black US president, is leading Republican rival John McCain in opinion polls ahead of the 4 November election.
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Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 22:55:26


Pardon me, but I think you're mixing two different elements here. I have no objection to people from a foreign nation trying to keep their ethnic identity. Someone has to keep the old traditions alive for their children.

However, they should mix in as best they can with the rest of the society they live in. I couldn't care less of a Muslim woman came to work in my office wearing a head scarf. Much more important is whether or not she can do the job. After all, catholics wear their crosses, and many Jews wear a star of David, and no one says anything about that.

A friend I met here recently is German, but born of Italian parents, has an Italian passport and speaks the language fluently. He just married a German girl who shares his values in regard to marriage, and now they're thinking in terms of raising a family. I would hope that their children grow up speaking both languages and appreciating both of the cultures. He was delighted to have found a girl who shared his values and loved him into the bargain. I'm completely envious.

I'm in a similar situation. I'm an American citizen and have all the privileges that go with that. I also live in Germany. I mix well with the "natives" and actually have more friends here than in the US. To them, I'll always be the American who lives among them, but they don't care. I therefore have the best of both worlds.

It's just when people start talking about "minorities" as though that were some form of sub-human, that we start having social troubles. Accept them for what they are; learn from them if you can. It's wonderful. In Hawaii, you're greeted with a lei. In Russia with bread and salt. Both are traditional.

You can only bake a good cake by mixing very different ingredients. A society works the same way. The USA is the great country it is because of this very integraton of "minorities". We have the benefit of all the traditions and values.

Proud-to-be-Nellie - 1 Nov 2008 // 22:36:55


Feel free to make typos. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I am making typos all the time, so I am not judging you.

About living in Europe - I would be comfortable living in Europe too. I am not a fan of integration, and forced integration is criminal. No one should be forced to integrate. Why are Arabs and foreigners not forced to integrate in England, France and Germany? Why are they allowed to keep their national costumes, head scarves, Arab dress? And why are white people forced to integrate and live among minorities? It is reverse discrimination that has gone quite far enough. No way!

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 22:26:12


Seems I can't post anything these days without any typos. My typing is all right, but my proofreading isn't.

I had the same problem while working. I could proofread anyone else's work easily, but not my own. If I don't feel the error going through the fingers, it's a fair bet that I won't catch it in proofreading, either.

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 22:22:27


I'm not going to get into THAT argument. I'm not sure Bai T is another nick for /0, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is.

One clue is the overuse of the word, "idiot", and/or "moron". /0 simjply cannot resist the temptation to slam his addressee.

Proud-to-be-Nellie - 1 Nov 2008 // 22:18:53


Bai T. is fungus? Interesting. You may be right. However, I am not Bored, Figment, Countryhick or anyone else. I rreally am Nellie and that picture viking posted on here really is me and my daughter. I am still waiting to see viking's "beauty queen" from Gabrovo. How much do you want to bet that she is old, fat and ugly? And that old donkey has the nerve to call me ugly!

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 15:44:05

Bai T:

"I was on the forum to kick butt and have some fun."

Well, if that's the best entertainment you can find, I REALLY feel sorry for you. You've spent too much time trying to see the world through the bottom of a rakija bottle.

Bai T. - 1 Nov 2008 // 14:41:47

"Well, if I fell for it, so have you."

Bull. Different standards apply. Unlike you, I have never stated that I had high moral values or that I belonged to a very special Church, or a Cult, or whatever the LDS is. In fact, I have previously stated that I was on the forum to kick butt and have some fun.

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 14:33:48

Bai T:

Well, if I fell for it, so have you. You keep posting items which say prtty much the same thing over and over. No real variation and no originality. Just the foul-mouthed put-down attempt.

I'd gladly go back to cleaner vocabulary, but you don't understand it.

Bai T. - 1 Nov 2008 // 14:10:43


You have stated that you had high moral principles. You have set your own standards. The moment you do that there will be people who are going to put you to the test. Make no mistake about it, bored Nellie is one of them. My approach is direct, while bored Nellie is doing the buddy-buddy thing, old gentleman, nice guy, virtual girlfriend and all that crap. Last night, after gaining your trust, she wrote: “Bill, let's troll on WW and BaiT. They are both worthless, despicable Bulgarian trash. Let's pee and poop on them.” You fell for it, moron!

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 14:02:12

Bai T.

Well, at least I had a better starting point than you've ever reached.

But I'm more than ever convinced that you're /0 by another nick. Too many similarities to be coincidental.

Bai T. - 1 Nov 2008 // 13:56:39


" If people shovel crap at me..."

You have repeatedly stated that you had high moral principles, the Cult, etc. I haven't.

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 13:53:33

Bai T:

Sorry. never will get used to this keyboard. I make more mistakes on it than with my old one, but this was a gift, and I don't want to offend the giver.

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 13:51:51

VI t.

Oh, now I understand a bit better. If people shovel crap at me, that's fine, but if I shovel some of it back that's abuse. Is that it?

Bai T. - 1 Nov 2008 // 13:50:06


"I don't understand the insane hatred yo're spouting..."

You sang a different song yesterday, when your virtual boyfriend bored Nellie was on and the two of you were abusing other people.

Bill - 1 Nov 2008 // 13:48:58

Bai T:

I repeat:

"I don't understand the insane hatred"

I came onto this forum with entirely innocent and honest purposes. Nothing which would conflict with Church doctrine.

But I got confronted immediately by forces which certainly aren't Christian, and I have had to fight them with weapons I've never used before.

It's not a pleasant experience, and I would much prefer to go back and start over, but I'd get the same result if I did.

One must fight evil the best he can, and I'm not very good at it. But then it's always been that way. Denigrate and defame any course you can't steer yourself.

I expect to get what I deserve at judgement, and I'm prepared to take whatever it is, because God is just.

I wonder which of us will make out better when that time comes.

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