German Scientists Deny 5 Centuries of Bulgaria's History

Politics | April 24, 2007, Tuesday // 00:00| Views: | Comments: 21
Bulgaria: German Scientists Deny 5 Centuries of Bulgaria's History Many of the sculls that are still kept in the Batak church and museum clearly show that people had been killed by blows to the head. Photo by pravoslavieto.com

German scientists from the Eastern Europe Institute with the University of Berlin have sparked a wide controversy in Bulgaria, claiming that the five-century long Ottoman reign over the country was a sham.

Martina Baleva and Ulf Brunnbauer say that one of the most horrendous acts in Bulgaria's history - the slaughter of thousands in Batak, has been a myth and the number of victims overrated.

The two are planning a science conference on May 18 to announce their theory while the citizens of Batak are ready to stop them at any cost.

Nearly the 5,000 people of the town of Batak including women and children were slaughtered, beheaded or burned alive by Ottoman irregulars who left piles of dead bodies around the town square and church in 1876, giving start of the April Uprising. American journalist Januarius McGahan, who first described the Turkish atrocities in Bulgaria had exaggerated in his reports, the two Germans claimed.

Batak's Mayor Petar Paunov is outraged at the new allegations and say that they are a sacrilege and an insult to the memory of the people from the town.

The truth of the 5,000 victims that our town gave during the April Uprising is known worldwide and has been passed on from generation to generation, he said. The authors of the idea may jeopardize the ethnic peace in the region where Muslims and Christians now live together in peace, Paunov fears.

The mayor said that Baleva only visited the town twice for half an hour each. She sent them a proposition for a new conceptual model of the Batak museum that was waived off by the locals. "I would like to invite her and her German colleagues into the church where the thousands of sculls of the people killed in the slaughter are kept," Paunov said.

He has already contacted the country's Vice President, who is native of Batak, to ask for his assistance in resolving the matter.

"Let everyone know that Batak never bows its head," Paunov told Darik News.
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#21
Fr Jack Hackett - 5 Sep 2015 // 19:29:53

Would these be the same scientists who deny the Armenian genocide? There seems to be a marked shift towards islamic interests in the EU - a move whose momentum appears to be increasing

#20
GrueFsk - 5 Sep 2015 // 18:38:13

And I bet the German guy isn't even representative for the majority of Germans, who probably have a neutral opinion on Bulgaria or maybe even a positive one.

#19
GrueFsk - 5 Sep 2015 // 18:36:29

"Now" that Martina Baleva has German citizenship she is no longer a Bulgarian. But even if she still were, "impartiality" demands that she skip over her Bulgarianness.

#18
GrueFski - 24 Aug 2015 // 22:24:33

It doesnt really matter whether the "2" German "historians" are right or not, the anti-Bulgarian intention is the one that matters + the pro-Turkish bias (Ottoman Turkish Empire was actually quite tolerant towards non-Muslims, after the winning of their independence from the Ottoman Turks Christian Balkan states have begun an undeserved campaign of persecution against their Muslim citizens, especially against the former masters, the Turks, a genocide almost was perpetrated unto the poor Turks JUST because their were Muslim and had martyrized both Christian laymen and especially (percentage-wise) priests/monks, had forcefully converted hundred of thousand of Christians to Islam, turning Muslim Bulgarians against Christian ones, Muslim Greeks against Christian ones, Muslim Albanians against Christian ones, Muslim Croats against Christian ones, had been collecting the bloodtax (Christians' children taken to become over-Muslim anti-Christian soldiers - the famous Janissaries) and for the fact that their Turkish forefathers had conquered their countries and destroyed their civilizations, traditions, aristocracy and had occupied them for centuries.

#17
GrueFski - 12 Apr 2015 // 00:31:10

NWO instructions to put down Bulgaria, to glorify Turkey and the Turks and to help Turkey get bigger, territorywise, on the expense of Bulgaria.

#16
Devil's Advocate - 25 Apr 2007 // 17:18:27

DP,
I agree, they aren’t scientists because they even discount the actual proof (Blood on the church walls in Batak) that this happened. They are idiots!

#15
DP - 25 Apr 2007 // 17:08:02

What is this talk about “scientists”? Are scientists going around examining the holes in old sculls in order to disapprove documented historical events concerning atrocities? This actions sound highly suspicious in terms of motivation, and as far as I am concerned, they should be condemned. Especially when one of the “scientists” is donning a Bulgarian/Russian? name (for added credibility perhaps) and the other is a German (a national from the perpetrators of the famous holocaust).

I say to them: Go peddle your theories somewhere else. Not in Bulgaria!

#14
Bill - 25 Apr 2007 // 16:45:55

Cheeseus:

Germany still has people who think the holocaust is a myth. These have provoked such anger among the rest of the population that deniying the holocaute has been criminalised, and is now punishable.

I have a videocassette in my library of the liberation of one of the concentration camps. I can't remember which one. Anyone who can look at these pictures and still think the holocaust is a myth is simply brain dead. They're gruesome, shocking pictures.

I was at a Christmas party several years ago. A lady there made herself completely obnoxious to everyone else, because she was still a convinced Nazi. Thought Hitler was a hero. Sadly, such people exist everywhere.

#13
Richie - 25 Apr 2007 // 15:14:30

"I suppose you were at the Holocaust?"

No I wasn't, but there are a number of surviving eye-witnesses who were (whom I haven't met, by the way). I do think, however, that if there were scientists who have found evidence that certain aspects of it weren't as bad as described in our history books, they should be allowed to present their evidence, preferrably before being flooded with hate-mails and telephone calls.

#12
CreepyS - 25 Apr 2007 // 14:33:37

"Let the f@#$s know how we feel."

We feel like arabs seeing Mohammed cartoons in a western newspaper. It will be good however to get some information about the project directly from the authors - what if the media cited them incorrectly or exaggerated?

#11
SLONAMU - 25 Apr 2007 // 12:36:54

Please feel free to call and e-mail them. Let the f@#$s know how we feel.
Martina Baleva
0049-30-695041-42 fon
0049-30-695041-43 fax
baleva@kunstagenten.de

Ulf Brunnbauer
GarystraГџe 55, D-14195 Berlin
Tel.: +49.(0)30.838-52028
Fax: +49.(0)30.838-54036
E-mail: ulf@zedat.fu-berlin.de

#10
cheeseus - 25 Apr 2007 // 12:23:20

There are too many Turks in Germany, perhaps both the German and the "Bulgarian" have Turkish blood in their veins... How can someone say such outrageous things and sleep at night

#9
Kolega - 24 Apr 2007 // 21:46:19

Richie,
I suppose you were at the Holocaust?

I agree that it doesn't deny any history, and the Batak massacre wasn't as instrumental for the Russian intervention, as we were thought, but it's the Balkans - we have a proven record - before that and subsequently, to make the number killed, quite plausible.

#8
Richie - 24 Apr 2007 // 21:35:09

Maybe we should wait until 18th May before judging these scientists? History is full of myths, and Bulgarian history is probably no exception. The Batak massacre may be a myth as well, I wasn't there when it happened so I don't know. Let's hear their arguments. I'd also like to know how calling the Batak massacre a myth leads to the denial of 5 centuries of history.

#7
Kolega - 24 Apr 2007 // 20:47:41

Lol, I can't imagine me scaring any one off - I am such a sweetheart;)
A lover, not a fighter I tell you!

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