Greece Finds Time to Chastise Macedonia Amid Austerity Riots

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Bulgaria: Greece Finds Time to Chastise Macedonia Amid Austerity Riots Romanian President Traian Basescu (C) welcomes his Greek counterpart Karolos Papoulias (L) at Cotroceni Palace in Bucharest, where Papoulias is on an official 2-day visit. EPA/BGNES

Greek President Karolos Papoulias accused Macedonia of flagrant nationalism during his visit in Romania Wednesday.

President Papoulias referred to the recently erected statue of Alexander the Great in the central square of Macedonia's capital Skopje.

Both Greece and Macedonia view Alexander as a key figure in their ancient histories and vie for his heritage.

"The government in Skopje continues to feed on nationalism. You cannot create a historic past by building monuments," argued Papoulias.

At the same time, some of the tens of thousands protesting impeding austerity measures in Greece, attempted to attack the House of Parliament and Ministry of Finance in Athens.

Tuesday Macedonia also erected a monument to medieval Bulgarian Tsar Samuil, which it considers its own ruler.

During his meeting with Romanian counterpart Traian Basescu Wednesday, Greek President Karolos Papoulias nevertheless stated that he hopes that the dispute around the name of Macedonia will be resolved "in the nearest future."

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Dino the Athenian - 1 Jul 2011 // 22:48:04

Thank you Honterus for lending a hand.

Sarkan is obviously lamenting the fact that the Turkish Parliament is not functioning after both the Kurdish party (BDP) and the main opposition (CHP) are refusing to take the oath.

He is venting his frustration plus the fact that his country is already kicked out of Europe for life.

Honterus - 1 Jul 2011 // 22:07:32


"I mean, they were disputing a totally non-sense while the Ottoman Army was about to invade the city. "

Do not limit yourself to see only the superficial aspect of this urban legend. These kind of Greek "non-sense" set one of the pillars of the Western culture.

The first ones exercising this kind of "non-sense" activities were Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Pythagoras, Heraclitus and many others.

Besides - those concerned by this urban legend were priests not warriors. What would have been the alternative ? Trying to escape from the conquering Turkish army ? They were sure that God will take care of the fate of His City. Their profound belief deserve respect not contempt.

Last but not least - Archimedes died trying to protect his geometrical drawings in the sand from the invading Roman soldiers.

Dino the Athenian - 1 Jul 2011 // 12:16:48


Thanks. Kythira is cool. Hope all is well down under:

mavro from australia - 1 Jul 2011 // 06:31:50

My parents are from Greece and are always in Greece during the summer months. I'm Australian born in Sydney living in Sydney.
I'm kytherian on my mum's side and dad's side is 3/4 Castellorizian and 1/4 Macedonian.

Dino the Athenian - 1 Jul 2011 // 04:16:20


What's your origin?

mavro from australia - 1 Jul 2011 // 02:40:36

What you talking about Sarkan is more of a male phenomenon not so much
a Greek phenomenon for instance an old man dying of old age would be
worried about the deco of the room he was dying in than how much hours he has left.
Archimedes famously was drawing trigonometry in the sand when he was stabbed
by a Roman solder.

Dino the Athenian - 1 Jul 2011 // 01:10:42

For all practical purposes, EU enlargement has stopped now.

Amd those out of the EU will remain out for a very long,long, long time:

sarkan - 30 Jun 2011 // 17:15:58

"Greece Finds Time to Chastise Macedonia Amid Austerity Riots"

I'm not surprised. These guys were disputing whether the angles are male or female.

Location: Constantinople (Istanbul)
Date: May 29th 1453
Position of Ottoman Army: Bombing here, climbing there, the city wall. lol.

I mean, they were disputing a totally non-sense while the Ottoman Army was about to invade the city. Now, I understand that nothing has changed since then.

ZakUK - 30 Jun 2011 // 15:49:27

Guys, we forget that Macedonia as a contry exsisted throughout the history and it was only recently 1914 when it was torn apart between it's neighbours. So it will always be natural to those people to seek their roots. I do understand however why the Grreks and Bulgarians are making a fuss about claims like this but they've done their asimilation at the time when there wasn't UN or any world organisation which would chase any crimes against humanity and therefore they can put their heads at rest that any officials from Macedonia (FYROM) will claim it's old regions. That is impossible at this time...
You can distroy the borders of a nation buy not it's people, is has been proven in the past, Ireland, Baskia, Curdistan etc...
I know some Grreks or Buldarians may find themselves offended by my coment, but bare in mind that I don't represent any of the sides mentioned in my coment, I am just sick of the big countries continiously showing their power against the smaller countries.
And also, as a UK national it does bother be why my goverment had to provide financial support for a country where when I go on holiday I am being charged double because I am British. Pathetic!
So instead the Greek goverment focusing on intergrating the region in EU and invite the Macedonians to trade and invest they create an enemy when there isn't one.
Funny old world.....

mavro from australia - 30 Jun 2011 // 01:23:09

Greece of course doesn't need to build any momuments.
Greece has already got them made in ancient times and they can be seen
in museums and archaelogical sites in Greece and beyond.
It should seen strange to anyone as to why are there people creating idols to the past. People should be creating infrastructure for the future.

Dino the Athenian - 29 Jun 2011 // 19:32:26

Give me a break!

Have you heard the expression: "Walking and chewing gum at the same time"?

What does austerity have to do with national issues?

In fact if you use your brain a little, Greece is unbeatable on all her national issues at the moment because of austerity.

There are a lot of important players out there that got Greece's back just because of the austerity program which is an important European experiment. They want Greece focused on that and don't have to worry about other issues.

Only naives would think that Greece is "weak" right now because of the austerity theater. Exactly the opposite is true.

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