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Commenting article: Bulgarians Strictly Adhere to Fresh Smoking Ban

Almost all Bulgarian bars and restaurants adhere to the full smoking ban that became effective at midnight on Friday, according to Bulgarian Health Minister Desislava Atanasova.

Inspectors have registered very few violations of the ban, Atanasova said.

"Apparently, everyone knows that the ban has entered into force, which means they understand their personal responsibility towards their own health and the health of others," she told reporters.

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#1
Hairydave - 2 Jun 2012 // 02:25:04

If this is true, then that's excellent. But somehow, sitting back in the UK and reading this, I find it really difficult to believe.

#2
viking - 2 Jun 2012 // 08:41:54

Hairy one

100% of the people I talked to were thrilled about the smoking ban. Even those who smoke thought it was a very good idea. Small sampling (about 20 folks) but everyone is hoping the government follows through with the penalties and fines.
They interviewed a guy who owns a bar in Turkey where the ban started awhile back and his business has increased.
On another note I was shocked to see people (In Gabrovo) walk in front of cars! Turns out the police are handing out fines if cars do not stop for people in cross walks and if someone hits a pedestrian in a cross walk they go directly to jail. I am also told it is a BIG mistake to cross outside a cross walk as the police are ticketing for "jaywalking".

I love it!

#3
adele - 2 Jun 2012 // 11:33:35

They are strictly adhering to it as they are terrified of the fines the maximum penalty is 10,000 lv but you may think this is a good idea but what about the people who run businesses this is going to cause a great deal of hardship for many and as Bulgaria has not got the luxury of State Benefits like the UK there are going to be a great many people facing real hardship

#4
viking - 2 Jun 2012 // 18:15:46

"hardship"?
Imagine the smell of cigarette smoke causing an allergic reaction and constant sinus pain and sneezing. This is what happens to me when I stand near one of these idiots who is afraid HIS/HER rights are being taken away.
The good places will thrive with the ban and the dumps will close because the smokers will stay home. The only reason they drink is to cool off their throats after sucking on a cigarette. Smoke and drink at home and enjoy all of the benefits.
may god bless your souls as he will have them soon

#5
adele - 3 Jun 2012 // 11:49:08

I appreciate that you have an allergic reaction to smoke and it causes you considerable distress BUT I was referring to the effect this is having on people who run businesses NOT the smokers them selves also why should people have their freedom of choice taken away, my suggestion has always been establishments should be allowed to decided if they wish to allow smoking and if they do they should have prominent signs posted, I do agree that places like cinemas, public buildings and the like should be none smoking as these places are open to all

#6
MichaelMcFadden - 4 Jun 2012 // 05:17:00

Viking, you wrote, "The good places will thrive with the ban and the dumps will close because the smokers will stay home."

Well, if that's true, and your major objection is being around smoke, then I don't see why you care at all about the ban. After all, you don't hang out in the "dumps" do you? (If you DID hang out in them then I'd think you wouldn't be so pleased at the idea that they'll all close.)

So why then should you CARE if smokers hang out in them? Why don't you simply work on convincing the "good germans" to hang out in the "good places" while the "lowlifes" hang out, safely away from you, in the "dumps"?

Michael J. McFadden
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"

#7
viking - 6 Jun 2012 // 04:41:53

MJM
It is very simple. I go no place where there is smoking for health reasons. Period.
Is that so difficult for you to understand?
Yet on recent bus trip across the country we stopped for a toilet break and of course there was a line. Almost half the people in line were smoking and the place was blue with very heavy smoke. . And of course, this being Bulgaria ( a place you know nothing about) I was not allowed to use any toilet near the bus stop.
Any suggestions for a person like me?
Why are you talking about Germans?

#8
MichaelMcFadden - 6 Jun 2012 // 10:40:31

I gather there was no smoking allowed on the bus? And, again I'm guessing, I imagine the Antismokers have forbidden smoking on ALL the busses rather than allow a few that permitted smoking? If such is indeed the case, then you should work with Free Choice folks against those bans so that you'll be better able to avoid smoke.

- MJM

#9
adele - 6 Jun 2012 // 13:05:58

Viking I live and run a business in Bulgaria so I do know what I am talking about as i have said before i appreciate that you have a medical problem BUT you must have had this condition prior to the ban and you do say you do not go anywhere where people smoke your life must be very restricted and you must have worked round this problem before so why all the shouting now it is down to people choice and peoples livelihoods in our local area now there are loads of establishments putting tables outside but this is not helping businesses are suffering already.

#10
viking - 6 Jun 2012 // 17:22:42

adele,

"why all the shouting" Who is "shouting? I think the smoking advocates are doing all the shouting and spouting off about how smoking is OK and their rights are being taken away. What about the rights of those who prefer not to be around smokers and others like me who get sick?
Work around the problem? Right. I just do not spend my money where people smoke. Not rocket science. I was in two places today in Varna and they were doing very good business and nobody was smoking. It was very pleasant.
I did say once and not one of the anti-ban writers responded.
Have you ever heard of anyone getting sick from NOT smoking?
But people die every day from cigarettes and the smokers just plug along in complete denial that they are doing something expensive, unnecessary and harmful.

#11
adele - 6 Jun 2012 // 17:37:25

yet again IT IS THEIR CHOICE, freedom of choice for ALL

#12
viking - 6 Jun 2012 // 18:19:24

adele,
"yet again IT IS THEIR CHOICE, freedom of choice for ALL"
And that would also be true for someone who has a loaded gun and randomly shoots anywhere they want?
Give me a break

#13
adele - 6 Jun 2012 // 18:40:50

I have no intention of getting into a slanging match you have now gone to age old argument that someone with an opinion who not every one agrees with so will now withdraw from this debate until more reasonable opinions are posted

#14
MichaelMcFadden - 8 Jun 2012 // 09:03:31

Viking, I offered you a suggestion that might help make your life a bit easier up above, but you seem to have missed it. Here it is for easier reference:
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I gather there was no smoking allowed on the bus? And, again I'm guessing, I imagine the Antismokers have forbidden smoking on ALL the busses rather than allow a few that permitted smoking? If such is indeed the case, then you should work with Free Choice folks against those bans so that you'll be better able to avoid smoke.

- MJM

#15
Seedy - 8 Jun 2012 // 09:26:17

Viking - so YOU have a problem and other people should suffer/be inconvenienced because of that? I have a problem with mathematics - I can't seem to be able to pick the correct six numbers on a lottery ticket - but I just get on with my life and I certainly don't expect Porsche to change its prices so I can afford one; do I have a good case if I sue them for discrimination, I wonder? I'm sure you could (and evidently DID) survive the smoking-toilet-queue experience - and I'm just as sure that the smell of smoke was actually welcome when you eventually reached the "head" of the queue. ;)

Michael - you're really over-egging the pudding here. Just WHY should people have to choose between a bus at a convenient time for them and spending hours stuck inside a moving tin-can full of foul-smelling smoke? I'm a believer in smokers having some rights but NOT in a small enclosed space and for hours on end - if they can't control their addiction then I'd suggest their health might benefit from either an exercise in will-power while on the bus or alternatively from a nice walk to their destination.....

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