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snafu - 1 Dec 2006 // 18:04:52

I remember that "Horowitz in Moscow" recording b/c I got it 10 years after the performance; it said "Domenico Scarlatti", not "Alessandro Scarlatti". You were initially correct, DP.

DP - 1 Dec 2006 // 17:28:33

Excellent post! Concur 100%.

Agree with you with the exception of the following statement:
". But I don't out this down to xenophobia as Katie is trying to make out. It is the lack of respect by the foreigners shown to the locals.”

First of all, speculations make week arguments.
Next, Kathie’s opinion is from the Bulgarian perspective and yours is from the Western European perspective. Xenophobia or lack of respect are basically expression of the same attitude. The wards reflect the different perceptions determined by the different sensitivities of the people that are on the receiving end and the one that are dishing it out.

Robin - 1 Dec 2006 // 13:04:49

I have to say Furian, that this common knowledge that many french locals in rural are fed up with the "malaise anglaise". But I don't out this down to xenophobia as Katie is trying to make out. It is the lack of respect by the foreigners shown to the locals.

Especially Brits tend to do little integration. What annoys the locals is not the foreigners but the destruction of their lifestyles by Brits who whilst they are quite happy to go to the local cheese shop once a week, really can't live without a big Tesco's down the street. I always laugh when I hear Brits talking about moving to France to live the quiet rural life. The french there live a quiet rural life because they are poor farmers not because it is "lifestyle" choice!

Kathie_ae - 1 Dec 2006 // 12:33:50


Just a brief return with some recommended reading for you - regarding my "personal opinion" that foreigners are not welcomed in some parts of Europe. It hurts when somebody points out your shortcomings, doesn'it? Perhaps you can now understand better whey your "objective" postings come across as hurfull...

Cheers. K

Kathie_ae - 1 Dec 2006 // 12:13:47


Yyou do not agree with the argument that a big part of our problems are due to the fact that our small country with its strategic geographical position on the trade road between East and West has been strangled for years by world powers - either by taking territories from us and giving them to others or by turning the country into a voiceless and powerless satelite without the right for own opinion.

If actually read the history of Bulgaria you will see that we have had very little chance to develop any tradition in democracy and successful self-rule which is the basis for every prospering stable society. After the fall of communism there was a vacuum of power as different young parties scrambled to organize and create some followers base. It is NORMAL that in times of vacuum power organized crime will flourish - it happened in many other countries. Whenever you loose the "strong hand" ruling the country you will see either crime and corruption spread or even civil wars - just look at Iraq now after they lost their dictator - it is falling into a complete chaos until/if a democratic society is built.

Of course a lot of mistakes were made in Bulgaria - NOBODY IS DENYING IT! You may find it hard to believe but there are quite a few intelligent people in Bulgaria who can figure out that many of the problems we currently have are of our own doing. And no, I do not think that 15 years is a sufficient time to switch to a completely new model of economy - from 100% government-controlled to a free market economy. Considering that the first 5-6 years were lost in the struggle for power between newly formed parties when no real reforms were started, that leaves 10 years for a 180 degrees turn into the way our economy and society should function.

And yes - you may not like to admit it but foreigners are definitely not welcomed in many parts of Europe - the natives of those countries admit it themselves. It is not my own personal opinion but rather opinions of Europeans I know and immigrants in those countries I've spoken to.

Despite your effort to show how you "respect Bulgarians" your post is still overly negative, patronizing and does not seem to serve any other purpose than to offend and belittle us as a nation. Since you do not recognize that Bulgaria has been affected by the world powers rule at all - then the only explanation for our state, according to you, would be that Bulgarians are stupid, ignorant, violent type of people who should better 'stay at home" than attempt to join the rest of Europe in prosperity. The theme that emerges from your postings so far - you would like to see BG stay out of EU, at least have the guts to admit it.

Oh - and do not bother to reply. I am not planning to come back to this topic to ready any further "encouraging" and "enlightening" articles by you.

Dovijdane. K

Bill - 1 Dec 2006 // 10:06:09

Bulerican and DP:

AHA! That's where I went wrong. I knew about Domenico Scarlatti. Alessandro I didn't know. Have to check further.

When I listen to what the mods call "music" it drives me up the wall. I prefer the more melodic stuff, especially when it's well orchestrated. I'm particularly fond of Berlioz's talent for passing a theme from instrument to instrument as the piece progresses. He was a master of that. He does a particularly fantastic job of it in "Les Francs-Juges". From what I can tell, that opera is almost never produced any more, if at all. Only the overture seems to have survived, and it's beautiful.

Beethoven was very good at that, too. I assume you've noticed how if you play the "Freude Schoene Gotterfunken" theme at double speed it's counterpoint to the slow movement?

When it comes to what these "boy bands" and the rest of the gang call guitar playing, it gags me. They should hear the Romeros, or any of the Spanish concert artists. They know how a guitar SHOULD sound.

This, I call music. Most else fails the definition.

BULERICAN - 1 Dec 2006 // 07:50:31


Scarlatti's operas and cantatas, his serenatas and oratorios, and especially his instrumental works soon brought new life to Neapolitan music.

He was to write over one hundred operas, six hundred cantatas and a number of oratorios. He was also frequently commissioned by members of the European nobility to compose sonatas for wind and string instruments as well as cembalo pieces and concerti grossi.

His set of Sinfonie di Concerto Grosso are currently available in the Philips label performed by I Musici.

He is known in Italy as the Godfather of Baroque music.

Domenico Scarlatti (Alessandro's 6th son) is also a very good listen.

DP - 1 Dec 2006 // 04:04:27

correction: Alessandro Scarlatti

DP - 1 Dec 2006 // 04:00:26

Bill, can't help you!
I have a CD “Horowitz in Moscow”. One of the pieces recorded is Sonata in C major by Domenico Scarlattti. Wonderful! Very distinct style. However the info BULERICAN posted is about opera by Alessandro Scarletti. Don’t remember listening to any operas by him.

BTW at the moment we are watching PBS, a concert of the quartet Il Divo performing in Los Angeles. Real heart stringers! European sentimentality! I wana go home! :(((((((((

Fatso - 1 Dec 2006 // 03:59:47

long live Bartholemew

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