UK May Introduce Visas for Bulgarians, Romanians

"Abuse of freedom of movement"

What abuse? They're just making use. You made the rules. Don't cry.

...and Bulgaria should introduce Visas for the Brits (30 day max), so they stop raping the country and abusing its citizens.

yeah Anastasia and go bankrupt in the process. BG needs foreigners to spent some money. Not my fault BG only attracts the rif-raf because its cheap and has minimum standards of service. Maybe investing in some better service levels will attract a different kind of tourist. We hope and pray.

Not referring to the tourists, but the UK retirees who come here because of cheap housing prices. They don't have a pot to piss in back in the UK, but here they think they are better than the locals. Their general disrespect is intolerable.

Woww Anastasia have you had a bad crop of grapes this year? It certainly sounds like your full of Sour Grapes to me.

I'm one of those retiree's your referring to, I sold my business in Feb 2010 and came to live here and yes the low prices were one of the deciding factors whether it was Spain or Bulgaria or Portugal.

As a typical Brit we do not claim any money from your government, we signed an agreement when we came here and applied for long term residency.

I pay taxes to your government almost every day when I purchase things from the village shop which would roughly equate to about 60 Lev (Vat 20% on 300 Lev) I also employ Bulgarian companies to carry out work, which again creates both jobs and tax revenue for your country.

Just how many Bulgarians would be keen to go to the UK "IF" they had to sign an agreement saying they will not claim benefits from the UK government?

I live in a village that had 2800 residents 2 1\2 years ago, now it's down to 2600 (Probably less as there have been a few deaths in the past week according to the church bells)

The young are abandoning the villages to seek employment, and without us Brits that you obviously object to being here, the villages will continue to die, resulting in shops closing, further reductions in employment for the locals, less taxes being gathered by your wonderful Borisov resulting in less benefits to yourself by the way of improvements to yours or your families life.

The UK is an Island, sorry but the Poles beat you to the jobs, by all means the Bulgarian people can go to the UK and work "IF" they can find a job, with 3 million unemployed in the UK do you honestly think its wise to allow Romanians and Bulgarians into the country to fight for non existent jobs?

A sad fact of life that you need to live with whether you like it or not, is that money brought into the country is a damn sight better for taxes than a wage earned in the country.

I along with many more Brits, enjoy the country we now call home and take comments from thoughtless idiots like yourself with a pinch of salt because you obviously have not got a clue of what your on about or what damage your suggestion would do to your country.

I'm just hoping your not wanting to become involved in politics because I personally have experienced life under a female Prime Minister and still see the damage to this day that a woman in power can do because of badly thought out ideas

BTW that should read 60 lev per week in taxes

I'm also well respected with the villagers and enjoy my daily coffee at the cafe bar each morning, with those you claim to despise us Lol

I do not usually post on the forum but due to Anastasia's comments I just felt I had to do so. I am an expat here and as it happens, I do have a pot to piss in back in the UK as I still have a house there which we rent out at very low rates to.. guess what? Yes, Bulgarians! This means they can work and live reasonably in our country. I do not see how we rape your country as we pay our dues to be here and claim nothing from you. Our money has been worked for and I am sorry for you as you are obviously a very jealous person. Many Bulgarians think that the UK is paved with gold because many of us after having worked and saved all our lives are able to finally sell up and move to a country which of course has better weather and is more cost effective to live than the UK. In the UK we have many different classes of people as you do and not all the people that come here are from the lower class as you seem to believe. We have given money to the local community to help the children in the centre with leisure sports, we contribute to the village days and as a whole we join in with the community and have made very special friends (Bulgarians). During the winter times we collect the gas from the town for the old people and we regularly take people to and from the hospital as they cannot afford the bus fares. Shame on you Anastasia! I do think an apology is in order from you!

Sadly Anastasia appears to have hidden herself away and is not decent enough to offer a better explanation for her attitude. Either that or the grapes have been well sour and she does not have an internet connection in the toilet;-)

I did notice she failed to make the slightest comment about the number of Bulgarians who have sloped off to the likes of Italy to work etc, isn't it strange how it's okay for Bulgarians to go to other countries Anastasia but it's not ok in your eyes for the British to come to your country, bringing additional income to your towns and villages?

At the last Census I believe it was in the region of 5,000 British Expats who were living in Bulgaria, I wonder if that is anywhere near the mark of Bulgarians currently living in Italy?

Anastasia will probably be the type of person who also hates the fact that Roma exist in Bulgaria, I would be very interested to hear who you would prefer as neighboursnastasia a?

But one thing I will offer Anastasia is a little bit of free advice, whilst you are young work hard and save your money, then in your later days you can retire to start to enjoy life, if this means moving to a better climate to enjoy life then so be it, but always remember one thing in life, the people you hate in life, have always the bigger chance of coming to your aid when you need help, so never try to cause an upset with foolish posts, Karma has a weird way of repaying you, as they say, what goes round comes around, you never know, you may just depend on one of those Brits to save your life ;-)

I would also be interested in how we are raping your country? Please do explain

Anastasia posted "Not referring to the tourists, but the UK retirees who come here because of cheap housing prices. They don't have a pot to piss in back in the UK, but here they think they are better than the locals. Their general disrespect is intolerable."
Hmm... No-one thinks they are better than anyone else, that is just your insecurity making you think this way. If you want to better yourself which you obviously do, then as Davey suggests, do as we have all done, work hard, save and one day you may be able to live a decent life without this hatred for fellow man. I think that maybe you should look at some points from the other side when you mention "disrespect". I know of many Expats who have been "ripped off" by your people and even minor incidents such as different priced menus for Bulgarians and English so who is disrespecting who? Do we complain about this? Only very occasionally and with due respect we would be entitled to do so, wouldn't you? I think you are a disgrace to your country and I would say that you are a very small minority of how your people see us!

swift and co:

“I think you are a disgrace to your country and I would say that you are a very small minority of how your people see us!"

And which country would that be, swift? Pray, tell us, guys...
My head is spinning from the litany of insults that you posted against Anastasia “the Bulgarian” and “her people” in response to her comment. Did anyone of you give a second thought regarding her actual nationality?

In conclusion, do as Davey says:
“never try to cause an upset with foolish posts, Karma has a weird way of repaying you,” You made fools of yourselves by ganging on Anastasia and insulting indiscriminately l Bulgarians...

Superboiko you are so right and I of course apologise for automatically assuming Anastasia was in fact a Bulgarian, it actually appears (After researching) she is nothing more than a hypocritical American Jew who loves Varna.

She also admitted she is dead in the water back in America and how she was much better off financially in Varna compared to the East coast of the USA. She also mentions the fact that The rents are so off the wall, a studio apartment (crammed between more buildings with brick walls for a view) here costs nearly twice that of my brand new 2 bed, 2 bath, 2 balcony flat (overlooking Cherno More) in Varna.

Strangely sounds familiar to British Expats who have came to this country for one reason or the other?

So yes the "Not having a Pot to piss in" comment does not solely apply to the Brits by the looks of it :-)

Sorry to interfere, but what of so special in the possible Visa regime?
Wtf "a move that would challenge one of the fundamental principles of the bloc"?? Any state at any time (GB is not the exclusion) is guided
-first and furthermore-by its own interests. Natura rerum... Still Visa regime-esp. the selective one-is, imho, insulting for the State (BG). But it is a good impetus as well, btw. And then: BG is free to introduce
the same regime, the ordinary Brits will understand it, I think.

"-first and foremost-", sorry.

Sa-Sha

The UK Home Secretary really hasn't got a hope in hell of introducing visa's for certain EU citizens, however, I do see what she is getting at.


Unfortunately the A2 citizens (Bulgarian and Romanian) need a visa to work in the UK unlike the Polish for example, this will change next year and of course could benefit workers from the likes of the A2 because it opens up their rights to seek employment directly with the employer instead of through an Agency who takes their cut of the workers salary because they organised the employment Visa.

With in excess of 3 million unemployed in the UK and the way the benefits system is being raped by foreigners (And lazy Brits) is it any wonder that they are concerned about a mass exodus of BG and Romanian workers heading to the shores of the UK?

I disagree with any plans for restricting foreign workers in the UK but I certainly don't see how Brits moving to another Country is a reason for Anastasia to make allegations that "We" are raping the Bulgarian Country when in fact we are putting more into the Country than herself by the look of it.

As for her being a teacher, maybe History should be one of her subjects she needs to brush up on?

I personally do not receive 1 stotinkie from the BG Government towards my costs of living in Bulgaria, however, I pay my taxes religiously, in fact paying to both BG & the UK, I too still have property in the UK with an annual Tax of £1375 per annum.

Only yesterday I saw a story about 5 Brits who travelled to Poland to seek employment and were refused work because Polish Nationals were given a priority, hhhmmmm imagine if the UK introduced that Policy?

Currently Polish workers can claim Child benefits in the UK for their children living in Poland, is that right? I don't think so, fair enough if the Child is residing in the UK but here in Bulgaria a Brit is entitled to nothing yet according to Anastasia "WE" are the ones raping the Country ?????

I wish she would reply to explain how in her opinion we are Raping the Country, despite the fact we are putting into the system but not taking out, it sounds more like it is we Brits who are being raped by the Country we enjoy to call home, do we complain? Not on your life Lol

Anastasia has a valid point, as does everyone else here.
However, the EU allows free movement and work opportunities (subject to there being work), and that is the crux of the situation.

More than 2.3,000,000 Bulgarians have left BG and more than 53 000 of them are in the UK. It is also a fact, sadly, that many of the Bulgarian population abroad are engaged in criminal activities.

It is my opinion that the EU be disbanded and all non-nationals apply for visa's of residence for their 'adopted country'.

Incidentally, I have been a part-time resident, businessman and tax-payer in BG since 1987!