5th Century BC Swastika Found in Bulgaria

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5th Century BC Swastika Found in Bulgaria: 5th Century BC Swastika Found in Bulgaria Swastika found in Bulgaria during archeology excavations is a century-old symbol and has nothing to do with Adolph Hitler and the Third Reich. Photo by Narcis Torbov for DarikNews

The Swastika is one of the oldest symbols found on Bulgarian soil during archeology excavations near the village of Altimir, in the northern Vratsa Region.

The precious find, along with 70 other objects, is on display at the Regional Museum in the city of Vratsa, Darik radio reports Wednesday.

The exhibit is titled “Gods, Symbols, and Ancient Signs” and will be opened for a month from now.

The symbol was also found in Bulgaria during the times of the Roman Empire on a fibula, and during the Middle Ages as a cross with bent arms. Swastika in Bulgaria can be seen in one of the oldest churches in the Black Sea town of Nessebar and at the “Saint Sofia” church.

The sign is a century-old symbol, dating from the birth of human civilization in Central Asia and North India, long before the time of Adolph Hitler and the Third Reich, archaeologists, authors of the exhibit, point out.

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#13
NellieotAmerica - 22 May 2010 // 23:40:32

Fisted

You do know about the large VW factory that Porsche built near Wurtzburg that didn't produce too many VWs because it was requisitioned in the war effort to produce tanks? PantzerI, II, etc?

OK, he visited the Ford plant in America before this. He was influenced by the Ford factory and the quantity production of cars. Hitler also wanted large quantitities and low prices.

#12
NellieotAmerica - 22 May 2010 // 23:17:48

Fistercho

Hey, it is not my fault you have a biography of Porche that contains errors and/or omissions.

I saw it on the History Channel. It was before 1934, maybe around 1930-33?

#11
DrFaust - 22 May 2010 // 20:28:56

"Ferdinand Porche came to America and toured Ford's factory and there are letters and historical evidence to prove it. He even wrote about how clean the Ford plant was. He took back to Germany many German-American Ford workers and then he built the large VW factory which never produced any cars, because the war started."

Hm, that part is missing in the Porsche biography in my library...

#10
Pantudi - 22 May 2010 // 19:39:07

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#9
TomDavid88 - 22 May 2010 // 19:34:23

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#8
Pantudi - 22 May 2010 // 19:26:00

Nellie,

You wrote to DrFart: "Don't be such a pedantic arsehole."

What else can you expect from a broke fat pig from the Eastern Provinces? His ugly slut with no tits has adopted a "no money, no pu$$y" policy and he gets it out of his system on the forum. LOL

#7
NellieotAmerica - 22 May 2010 // 17:11:33

@fister


OK, Ferdinant, not Friedrich Porche. My bad! An honest mistake.

Ferdinand Porche came to America and toured Ford's factory and there are letters and historical evidence to prove it. He even wrote about how clean the Ford plant was. He took back to Germany many German-American Ford workers and then he built the large VW factory which never produced any cars, because the war started.

Don't be such a pedantic arsehole. I will be the first to admit that my writing style is a bit more loose and out-of-the-box than what your pedantic nature condones.

#6
DrFaust - 22 May 2010 // 13:42:55

"Henry Ford was a good personal friend of Hitler and also of Friedrich Porshe, the guy who built Volkswagen."

Ford was a radical anti-semite and an admirer of Hitler but definitely no personal friend of Ferdinand (not Friedrich) Porsche.

"Porshe learned everything he knew about car making from Henry Ford."

Pure nonsense. Before creating his own company he learned his profession at Steyr and Austro-Daimler. All engineers and constructors involved in the Volkswagen got their training without exception in Germany and Austria.

#5
Gorgias - 22 May 2010 // 09:05:46

One can see on the picture in the article - to the right of the center artefact with a svastik counterclockwise: there is another clay artefact -with a svastik exactly clockwise. Probably you can choose according to your gusta.

#4
NellieotAmerica - 21 May 2010 // 22:42:08

@fritzr

Oh, and one more thing--Henry Ford was a good personal friend of Hitler and also of Friedrich Porshe, the guy who built Volkswagen. Porshe learned everything he knew about car making from Henry Ford. Henry Ford was a big Hitler and Germany fan.

#3
NellieotAmerica - 21 May 2010 // 22:14:37

@fritzr

And before you incorrectly suggest that Hitler was a genius, let me inform you that Hitler did not invent the theory of eugenics that was responsible for the extermination of the lower, non-Aryan races. This distinction goes to Margaret Sanger, an American scientist. She also invented contraception. Hitler plagiarized her scientific theories and research.

#2
fritzr - 21 May 2010 // 20:35:50

caz--Sorry, but the premise of your statement (that all non-Nazi swastikas point counterclockwise) is simply incorrect.
throughout India, one can find swastikas incorporated as design elements in many temples and non-religious buildings, and they point both ways, often in the same decoration.
Hitler himself apparently first encountered the swastika in his days at a Lutheran boarding school where he was sent by his stepfather. The Lutheran brothers, who had early missions in India, had incorporated the swastika design (which conventionally suggests the passage of time/movement of the four seasons/survival/good fortune) in the ironwork of the gate through which young Adolf passed on his way to and from the mess hall. Even there, in the original artifact of the Nazi swastika, the symbol "points" one way on the way to the cafeteria, and another way on the way back. (cf. James Toland's Hitler: A Pictorial Biography, for photos of the school).
There is no defintional limit on the meaning of a swastika relative to its orientation, and the swastika appears in many cultures throughout the world, pointing in both directions, including not only those from Northern India, but also the among those of the aboriginal peoples of the American desert southwest, specifically the Hopi indians, on whose pottery and whose basketworks the swastika design is also found.
Your is a common assertion, often repeated, and appearing in several books, but it is factually inaccurate.

#1
caz - 20 May 2010 // 12:18:33

The Germanic version of this symbol has the arms pointing clockwise. All other versions have the arms pointing anti-clockwise. The third reich did not use a standard form of swastika. I have never seen this point made clear in archaeological debates.

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