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Commenting article: Turkey Moves to Downgrade Relations with Israel over 2010 Flotilla Raid

#16
ankle - 4 Sep 2011 // 18:06:25

You are digressing again and going into facts about the Jews that is irrelevant to the argument or legitimacy of the Israelis actions against the Turkish activists.

For the amount of problems that Israelis have had now and Jews in general over the centuries, in the last 100 years what have those people actually done wrong?
It's quite true that in the time of Christ the Jews were the Al-Qaeda of the ancient world the Romans needed to put them down




Stick to the facts !

#17
sarkan - 4 Sep 2011 // 19:18:33

Hercules to Dino,

"Answer the questions and stop prevaricating!"

He won't, but I will. He's never been neither to Turkey nor Bulgaria. He knows nothing about those countries but he thinks that he will cover his ignorance by using an abusive language. On the other hand, I agree with you that most Greek people is nothing like this ignorant moron. For example there is Kostis; a couple of days ago he was strongly against my opinion but he interperted his opinion without any insults and finally he even had the courtesy to celebrate my holy Bayram.

#18
mavro from australia - 5 Sep 2011 // 02:01:57

The facts are at the time of the flotilla raid. The UN, Turkey and the international community at large were all supportive of the blockade of Gaza.
It's clear to all, that those protestors in the Mavi Marmara were armed with hand held weapons to resist any boarding party.
The Israeli boarding party was at first armed with paintball guns and were set upon by activists bent on violence and the Israelis did what they could to control the situation. Now Turkey is using the incident to score political points.

#19
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 12:37:12

It's clear to all, that those protestors in the Mavi Marmara were armed with hand held weapons to resist any boarding party.
The Israeli boarding party was at first armed with paintball guns and were set upon by activists bent on violence and the Israelis did what they could to control the situation. Now Turkey is using the incident to score political points.

Facts…

The Israeli commando’s attacked at night without any prior warning, down ropes from helicopters.

They were all heavily armed and not brandishing paintball guns taking the activist by surprise…. That’s what the object of the exercise was all about! If the Israelis had wanted a peaceful solution to the situation, they would have approach it another way by boats.

The Israeli commandos are high trained in all forms of combat against any foe, so why did they shoot 9 unarmed activist?

Simple, they don’t care what they do or what other people say about their actions.

#20
BULERICAN - 5 Sep 2011 // 13:47:10

Author: ankle, 5 Sep 2011 12:37:12
Turkey Moves to Downgrade Relations with Israel over 2010 Flotilla Raid

Facts…

The Israeli commando’s attacked at night without any prior warning, down ropes from helicopters. (THE FLOTILLA WAS WARNED BEFORE THEY SAILED THAT THEY WOULD BE STOPPED)

They were all heavily armed and not brandishing paintball guns taking the activist by surprise…. That’s what the object of the exercise was all about! If the Israelis had wanted a peaceful solution to the situation, they would have approach it another way by boats.(THE VIDEO CLEARLY SHOWED THE ISRAELIS BEING BEAT WITH PIPES AND OTHER OBJECTS, IT ALSO SHOWED THE ACTIVISTS/TERRORISTS PULLING SECTIONS OF RAILINGS LOOSE TO BEAT THE ISRAELIS)

The Israeli commandos are high trained in all forms of combat against any foe, so why did they shoot 9 unarmed activist?(WELL TRAINED YES, UNARMED ACTIVISTS, NO. EVEN PIPES AND BARS CAN KILL)

Simple, they don’t care what they do or what other people say about their actions.
(THOSE ARE THE FACTS)

QUESTION: Are you a cow ??? Why are you still chewing and re-chewing history ???

#21
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 14:15:59

You are arguing against yourself and have already said that the Jews never turn a blind eye to anything and base their teachings on the Old Testament…. That’s where their arrogance stems from and the philosophy that they are the chosen few!


It was simple aggression by the Israelis and it’s be repeated before and will happen again…

You say this is history and in the past, but correct me if I’m wrong, hasn’t the official UN report still not come out and what we are hearing is a leaked version of it as follows ?
The report demonstrates that the naval blockade and its implementation conform to international law. The criticism is that Israeli troops used excessive and unreasonable force when boarding the ferry Mavi Marmara on May 31, 2010, leading to the deaths of nine people.
Eight Turkish nationals and an American of Turkish descent died on the Mavi Marmara, the lead ship of the six-vessel convoy, after Israeli Special Forces in speedboats and dropped from helicopters boarded it in international waters.
Israel’s decision to board the vessels with such substantial force at a great distance from the blockade zone and with no final warning immediately prior to the boarding was excessive and unreasonable," said the inquiry, led by former New Zealand prime minister Geoffrey Palmer.
It said forensic evidence showed that "most of the deceased were shot multiple times, including in the back, or at close range" and this has "not been adequately accounted for" by Israel.

#22
Dino the Athenian - 5 Sep 2011 // 15:41:50

Ankle:

Cut out the nonsense and watch the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI

and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM&NR=1

and stop fabricating your own stories as the truth. You are a big time liar.

#23
Dino the Athenian - 5 Sep 2011 // 15:47:56

and Ankle:

As to your stupid theory of why Israelis did not approach by boat, why don't you tell us why after you do your homework first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24

#24
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 16:43:41

Dino,

Answer the question.

What gives you the authority to speak on Bulgarian or Turkish matters?

How many times have you visited Bulgaria/ Turkey and in what capacity?

I look for to your reply that hopefully will be informative and not abusive

#25
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 16:45:47

Dino,


What gives you the authority to speak on Bulgarian or Turkish matters?

How many times have you visited Bulgaria/ Turkey and in what capacity?

I look for to your reply that hopefully will be informative and not abusive

Answer the question.

#26
mavro from australia - 6 Sep 2011 // 02:37:12

With Dino's videos I can rest my case.
It didn't make any different whether those Israelis came by night or day or by boat or helicopter. Those activists wanted to put themselves on the news.

#27
hercules - 6 Sep 2011 // 11:22:13

At last Dino has a friend.... you will have made the Jerks day !

#28
DrFaust - 7 Sep 2011 // 01:08:52

"You ignorant Turk(wait, I just said the same thing twice), with your disgusting Turkish nonsense and your non-stop punctuated idiocy.

The UN report endorsed 100% the Israeli action and it was a big, fat slap in Turkey's impotent face."

Wow, really? Let's have a look at the source and see who is the idiot. I quote the UN website:

"Israeli action against Gaza flotilla ‘unlawful’ – UN Human Rights Council panel

23 September 2010 – Israeli forces violated human rights and international humanitarian law during the 31 May incident involving a convoy of aid ships bound for Gaza, the United Nations Human Rights Council’s international, independent fact-finding mission has concluded.

In a 56-page report, the fact-finding mission, which is separate from Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s four-member panel of inquiry into the same incident, found that the action of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) in intercepting one of the ships, the Mavi Marmara, on the high sea was “clearly unlawful.”

Nine civilians lost their lives and several more were seriously injured in the incident against the flotilla that departed from Turkey and was trying to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, which has been the subject of an Israeli blockade since 2007.

“The conduct of the Israeli military and other personnel towards the flotilla passengers was not only disproportionate to the occasion but demonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence,” the report states.

“It betrayed an unacceptable level of brutality. Such conduct cannot be justified or condoned on security or any other grounds. It constituted grave violations of human rights law and international humanitarian law.”

The report, which was made public yesterday, presents a factual description of the events leading up to the interception of each of the six ships in the flotilla as well as a seventh ship intercepted on 6 June, the deaths of nine passengers and wounding of many others, and the detention of passengers in Israel and their deportation.

The three-member mission said there is clear evidence to support prosecutions of crimes such as wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, and wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health.

It also voiced regret that the Israeli Government declined to cooperate with the mission, and that this is not the first time that this has happened.

“On yet another occasion of an enquiry into events involving loss of life at the hands of the Israeli military, the Government of Israel has declined to cooperate in an inquiry not appointed by it or on which it was significantly represented.”

The mission, ... interviewed more than 100 witnesses in Geneva, London, Istanbul and Amman during the course of its work."

Only a demented person like Dino can see in this report "a slap into the face of Turkey". I see he is still his old self: a degenerate retard.

#29
hercules - 7 Sep 2011 // 21:31:46

Dino,

Another kick in the balls for you as our resident jerk and purveyor of crap about all things on this planet… Do what the Israelis should have done to the Turks and then all will be forgotten.

I’m waiting!!

PS Also answer Ankle's questions

#30
Yane - 7 Sep 2011 // 22:01:40

Dino, ignore the Trolls, you proved your point with evidence and their response is to change the subject, that says it all.

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