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Commenting article: Turkey Moves to Downgrade Relations with Israel over 2010 Flotilla Raid

#31
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 16:45:47

Dino,


What gives you the authority to speak on Bulgarian or Turkish matters?

How many times have you visited Bulgaria/ Turkey and in what capacity?

I look for to your reply that hopefully will be informative and not abusive

Answer the question.

#32
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 16:43:41

Dino,

Answer the question.

What gives you the authority to speak on Bulgarian or Turkish matters?

How many times have you visited Bulgaria/ Turkey and in what capacity?

I look for to your reply that hopefully will be informative and not abusive

#33
Dino the Athenian - 5 Sep 2011 // 15:47:56

and Ankle:

As to your stupid theory of why Israelis did not approach by boat, why don't you tell us why after you do your homework first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6sAEYpHF24

#34
Dino the Athenian - 5 Sep 2011 // 15:41:50

Ankle:

Cut out the nonsense and watch the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LulDJh4fWI

and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM&NR=1

and stop fabricating your own stories as the truth. You are a big time liar.

#35
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 14:15:59

You are arguing against yourself and have already said that the Jews never turn a blind eye to anything and base their teachings on the Old Testament…. That’s where their arrogance stems from and the philosophy that they are the chosen few!


It was simple aggression by the Israelis and it’s be repeated before and will happen again…

You say this is history and in the past, but correct me if I’m wrong, hasn’t the official UN report still not come out and what we are hearing is a leaked version of it as follows ?
The report demonstrates that the naval blockade and its implementation conform to international law. The criticism is that Israeli troops used excessive and unreasonable force when boarding the ferry Mavi Marmara on May 31, 2010, leading to the deaths of nine people.
Eight Turkish nationals and an American of Turkish descent died on the Mavi Marmara, the lead ship of the six-vessel convoy, after Israeli Special Forces in speedboats and dropped from helicopters boarded it in international waters.
Israel’s decision to board the vessels with such substantial force at a great distance from the blockade zone and with no final warning immediately prior to the boarding was excessive and unreasonable," said the inquiry, led by former New Zealand prime minister Geoffrey Palmer.
It said forensic evidence showed that "most of the deceased were shot multiple times, including in the back, or at close range" and this has "not been adequately accounted for" by Israel.

#36
BULERICAN - 5 Sep 2011 // 13:47:10

Author: ankle, 5 Sep 2011 12:37:12
Turkey Moves to Downgrade Relations with Israel over 2010 Flotilla Raid

Facts…

The Israeli commando’s attacked at night without any prior warning, down ropes from helicopters. (THE FLOTILLA WAS WARNED BEFORE THEY SAILED THAT THEY WOULD BE STOPPED)

They were all heavily armed and not brandishing paintball guns taking the activist by surprise…. That’s what the object of the exercise was all about! If the Israelis had wanted a peaceful solution to the situation, they would have approach it another way by boats.(THE VIDEO CLEARLY SHOWED THE ISRAELIS BEING BEAT WITH PIPES AND OTHER OBJECTS, IT ALSO SHOWED THE ACTIVISTS/TERRORISTS PULLING SECTIONS OF RAILINGS LOOSE TO BEAT THE ISRAELIS)

The Israeli commandos are high trained in all forms of combat against any foe, so why did they shoot 9 unarmed activist?(WELL TRAINED YES, UNARMED ACTIVISTS, NO. EVEN PIPES AND BARS CAN KILL)

Simple, they don’t care what they do or what other people say about their actions.
(THOSE ARE THE FACTS)

QUESTION: Are you a cow ??? Why are you still chewing and re-chewing history ???

#37
ankle - 5 Sep 2011 // 12:37:12

It's clear to all, that those protestors in the Mavi Marmara were armed with hand held weapons to resist any boarding party.
The Israeli boarding party was at first armed with paintball guns and were set upon by activists bent on violence and the Israelis did what they could to control the situation. Now Turkey is using the incident to score political points.

Facts…

The Israeli commando’s attacked at night without any prior warning, down ropes from helicopters.

They were all heavily armed and not brandishing paintball guns taking the activist by surprise…. That’s what the object of the exercise was all about! If the Israelis had wanted a peaceful solution to the situation, they would have approach it another way by boats.

The Israeli commandos are high trained in all forms of combat against any foe, so why did they shoot 9 unarmed activist?

Simple, they don’t care what they do or what other people say about their actions.

#38
mavro from australia - 5 Sep 2011 // 02:01:57

The facts are at the time of the flotilla raid. The UN, Turkey and the international community at large were all supportive of the blockade of Gaza.
It's clear to all, that those protestors in the Mavi Marmara were armed with hand held weapons to resist any boarding party.
The Israeli boarding party was at first armed with paintball guns and were set upon by activists bent on violence and the Israelis did what they could to control the situation. Now Turkey is using the incident to score political points.

#39
sarkan - 4 Sep 2011 // 19:18:33

Hercules to Dino,

"Answer the questions and stop prevaricating!"

He won't, but I will. He's never been neither to Turkey nor Bulgaria. He knows nothing about those countries but he thinks that he will cover his ignorance by using an abusive language. On the other hand, I agree with you that most Greek people is nothing like this ignorant moron. For example there is Kostis; a couple of days ago he was strongly against my opinion but he interperted his opinion without any insults and finally he even had the courtesy to celebrate my holy Bayram.

#40
ankle - 4 Sep 2011 // 18:06:25

You are digressing again and going into facts about the Jews that is irrelevant to the argument or legitimacy of the Israelis actions against the Turkish activists.

For the amount of problems that Israelis have had now and Jews in general over the centuries, in the last 100 years what have those people actually done wrong?
It's quite true that in the time of Christ the Jews were the Al-Qaeda of the ancient world the Romans needed to put them down




Stick to the facts !

#41
mavro from australia - 4 Sep 2011 // 16:13:29

For the amount of problems that Israelis have had now and Jews in general over the centuries, in the last 100 years what have those people actually done wrong?
It's quite true that in the time of Christ the Jews were the Al-Qaeda of the ancient world the Romans needed to put them down. As of late the Arabs have only killed one another with the Lebanese civil war, Saddam Husein's wars, the recent uprising (Arab spring) etc etc. No need for blame shifting.
Turkey now wants to be the hero?? Really?? It's pretty obvious that Turkey just wants regional hegemony.

#42
BULERICAN - 4 Sep 2011 // 11:59:52

Author: mavro from australia, 4 Sep 2011 01:42:22
Turkey Moves to Downgrade Relations with Israel over 2010 Flotilla Raid



...It seems that the Israelis are supposed to the world's only Christians in the sense that they should be the ones to always turn the other cheek...

Psssssst ! Hey Mavro !

Israelis (Jews) are NOT Christians - The messiah has not come for them yet - They do not follow Jesus Christ, to them he was just another man.

Bottom line, they don't have to turn the other cheek, the live by eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth (Old Testament(Talmud ?) Rules)

#43
hercules - 4 Sep 2011 // 10:54:35

It seems that the Israelis are supposed to the world's only Christians in the sense that they should be the ones to always turn the other cheek.

What's to say that Turkey wouldn't of simply blown those ships out of the water and be done with it?? What would Turkey do if they had the same problem?

marvo,

Your argument about what Turkey would have done under the same circumstances is not applicable or relevant and has no bearing on what actually happening…. We are talking about the Israelis actions!

The Israelis have recently proved that they never turn a” blind eye” to anything, with the assassination of a Hamas leader in Dubai, 11 Lebanese protesters shot dead on the border with Lebanon and 5 Egyptian policemen shot dead on the Egyptian border.

How are the International forces treating the Somali pirates, who are heavy armed?

#44
hercules - 4 Sep 2011 // 10:31:11

You just throw your idiotic remarks here and there with "Bravo Turkey and good job Turkey and kiss my ass Turkey".

So this is you FINAL notice. Get lost.



Dino,

The hole that you are digging is getting deeper… Answer the questions and stop prevaricating!

#45
mavro from australia - 4 Sep 2011 // 01:42:22

Any country would have done what Israel did under the same circumstances.

It seems that the Israelis are supposed to the world's only Christians in the sense that they should be the ones to always turn the other cheek.

What's to say that Turkey wouldn't of simply blown those ships out of the water and be done with it?? What would Turkey do if they had the same problem?

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