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Commenting article: British Couple Struggle in Bulgaria Bee Hell

John and Julie Turner are a British couple who moved to a Bulgarian village looking for a quiet life but instead they have been constantly tormented and attacked by swarms of angry bees.

After contacting the local authorities regarding their neighbor's bee farm in the Elhovo village of Boyanovo they have received little attention and have come to the point where they are ready to pack up and leave in the unlikely event that someone agrees to buy their property.

Julie told Novinite.com of the torment that the bees have caused the couple and their elderly Bulgarian neighbors; "It's almost impossible to walk around the garden, hang out washing to dry or even walk to the car without getting pestered or even stung,our dogs have been stung, visitors have been stung, we can't have BBQ's, friends find it too much to be pestered by the bees so we rarely sit in the garden & we no longer use the double gates next to the hives it's just not worth it so they have been blocked up. Imagine the noise when you have almost 80 hives - the 'drone' noise from the bees is very intimidating."

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#1
NellieotAmerica - 14 Sep 2009 // 15:25:44

Hick

Friends of yours?

The bees were there before the Brits moved in. The Brits knew what they were getting into. Now they are complaining--what nerve! If you don't like it, go away. Good riddance to bad garbage. Bees are good, honey is a good thing. Imagine living next door to all this organic honey!

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countryhick - 14 Sep 2009 // 16:41:57

Hi
I can't agree more...It happened in a little village where I lived many years back...some flauncy newcomer built a stupendous house...more like a flippin' villa at the main road end of a track. Silly beggar didn't find out that a local gyppo had run a scrap yard at the other end of the track for as many years people could remember. Of course, Mr and Mrs Flauncy went to court to get an injunction, and the judge threw it out, saying that the business had been in place for years, and, basically...."do your homework"....needless to say the house lost a lot of value...HAHAHA

#3
countryhick - 14 Sep 2009 // 16:43:52

I forgot to say....
what would you say to the Brits concerned?



Answer:..."Bee-Hive yourself"

#4
percy - 14 Sep 2009 // 17:32:02

There were about 20 hives when we moved here and that number wasn't a problem, all we want is for it to go back to that sort of number I'm fairly sure you would do the same!

#5
countryhick - 14 Sep 2009 // 20:01:57

Hi Percy
Apologies...It's nice to hear the other side of the tale for a change. My bet is that you wouldn't get anywhere in law...the judge would fancy a bit of Brit Annoying.
Have you tried lighting a good fire in your garden, and smoking them out with wet leaves. I also believe that there is an insect that will decimate the bees...it's worth checking....

#6
Bill - 14 Sep 2009 // 20:31:02

countryhick:

You're closer to this than I am, but the thought crosses my mind that there might be a legal bar to that smoking idea. Here, the environmentalists have screwed things up so badly that you can't even burn your own leaves in the yard any more. Air pollution, you know. (To my mind, cigarette smoke is worse.)

What might be a way out of this is to check with some legal bee keepers. I know they use smoke pots of some kind to keep the bees at bay while taking the combs out, so maybe something along this line could be his solution.

#7
percy - 14 Sep 2009 // 20:39:18

Hello countryhick, yes we've done the bonfire thing, it's really a shame that it's come to this, the article sounds much more dramatic than it is! but it's no picnic living 12/14 ft from that many hives :-( just to clarify for people, the neighbours all Bulgarians have had problems with the number of bees for a long time and have told the hive owner but he's not interested. As time has gone on the more we've told him there's a problem the more hives he's put in the garden (remember there are NO hives in the garden of his house!) We really do live in a residential area, and yes we've offered to help 'relocate' the hives to the edge of the village, where they'd be no trouble to people & animals living close by, I can't see how that could be detrimental to his honey business we'd pretty much do whatever we can, but bottom line comes down to good old money, his greed for money comes befor his neighbours safety or quality of life...funny thing when they tried putting a net fence up to 'deflect' the bees flight path the family that helped erect the fence had to wear all the protective gear hat etc they didnt want to be near the hives without protection, but they expect us to !! By the way the 'bee-hive yourself' was funny !!

#8
stuski - 14 Sep 2009 // 21:03:38

It's a shame that werever you live in life, their's always someone trying to ruin your life as they normally do not have one themselves. Me personaly would fight fire with fire. 5ltrs of petrol 50lv's to the local gypsy fund should do it. Wait,Elhovo has a english fire engine at the station so maybe you should use 10ltrs of fuel,just to be sure.....

#9
percy - 14 Sep 2009 // 23:02:32

You're not the first person to suggest petrol and a box of matches,we've been given quite a lot of alternatives but we wouldn't really do any of them. We don't want to kill the bees,we just for him to be reasonable and move 60 or so of the hives away (even just a few hundred yards) still leaving some in the garden, but only enough for a 'hobby' not a business- I mean how much honey can two old people get through?!!
The smoke from the bonfires is really just a minor inconvenience to the man, he only visits the garden to collect veg and collect honey so he's not even putting himself or any of his family at the same risk from the bees as he's putting me and mine in. When was the last time anyone heard of a good experience from a swarm of bees? I probably sound like a right moaner but that number of hives (work out how many bees are in approx 80 hives..it's staggering!!) it really is dangerous and I honestly do not think it would be acceptable in ANY other E.U. member state. And I fail to see why he cannot compromise about the number of hives.... I'm willing to.

#10
NellieotAmerica - 14 Sep 2009 // 23:23:03

Percy

Your neighbor is probably making honey to sell. The honey is how he supports himself and his family. If it was me, I would not have bought the house you are in, right next to the bees. You probably got it cheap since no one wants to live near a field full of bee hives. I doubt you will find a buyer for the same reason. You have to find a plant or an animal (bird) that bees don't like and is the natural enemy of bees and get a few of them to keep around your yard, the bees might stay away. Alternately, you can try living under a mosquito net. Throw a fine mesh net over your porch.

#11
WickedWitch - 14 Sep 2009 // 23:36:00

You are willing to compromise because you trounce in a poor country, buy a house you would never be able to afford in the UK and expect the exact same standards and culture but for hundreds of times less.

Meanwhile, your neighbor could be selling the honey to be able to buy a TV or pay for his kid's schooling or just to pay for the winter's electric bill. Do not presume to compare the standards in EU's poorest country to those of Western Europe's. It sucks but people are just not so willing to be cooperative and neighborly when their livelihood is uncertain.

Great compromise, oh great white hunter you!

#12
percy - 14 Sep 2009 // 23:59:32

Nellieof america, I wish you had read the story and understood the situation, THERE WAS NO FIELD OF HIVES WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE, maybe 20 hives, I DO NOT MIND THAT NUMBER, the number of hives grew over time, the more we mentioned that the number of bees were starting to be a problem the more hive were purposely put in place. Which bit of that do you not understand? To my way of thinking having a bee farm in a populated residential area is a very thoughtless thing to do, it's not as though there is a shortage of countryside close by!!
As for selling the honey, yes he does, again I have no problem with that as long as he pays his taxes, the problem is only with the number of hives so close to peoples houses. ... you expect to see bees but not masses of them every day around your house!
And for heavens sake people if there had been 80 hives there I would not have bought the house, as I have said a reasonable number of hives is ok but not a huge number! What do you find so hard to accept about that?

#13
Buddy - 15 Sep 2009 // 00:36:37

Its very sad that the british couple has such bad experience. They must be happy that the lackey editor in Chief of the Directorate Sofia News,as his publisher, have found it worthy to present them at their ineternet edition in order to draw attention to BUlgaria. The editor in chief must be advised that in the last year all over the world there is a phenomena, namely the mass death of plenty bee families. Even that in the small Elhovo village so many vital Bees exist, to make the life of a British couple difficult must be regarded as a happy occurance. Sorry British couple, but ask the British Bees council for advise, not the BBS, or the directorate Sofia News....

#14
percy - 15 Sep 2009 // 00:36:53

'You are willing to compromise because you trounce in a poor country, buy a house you would never be able to afford in the UK and expect the exact same standards and culture but for hundreds of times less'.

YOU'RE HAVING A LAUGH THOUGH AREN'T YOU?!! WHITE WITCH YOU REALLY ARE A PRIZE PILLOCK, I TAKE THAT PART OF YOUR POST AS THE JOKE IT MUST SURELY HAVE MEANT TO BE!!!

'Meanwhile, your neighbor could be selling the honey to be able to buy a TV or pay for his kid's schooling or just to pay for the winter's electric bill. Do not presume to compare the standards in EU's poorest country to those of Western Europe's. It sucks but people are just not so willing to be cooperative and neighborly when their livelihood is uncertain'.

OH PLEASE! DEAR GOD SPARE ME, HE IS NOT DOING THIS TO BUY A COLOUR TELLY, HIS KIDS SCHOOLING FINISHED AT LEAST 20 YEARS AGO! YOU BABBLE ON ABOUT THINGS AND ARE SO BLATANTLY WRONG, THE MAN HAS A REAL TALENT FOR CARPENTRY, GENUINELY HE IS VERY GOOD AT IT, HIS HOUSE IS VERY NICE, HE HAS MORE 'MOTORISED' VEHICLES THAN WE DO! BELIEVE ME HE IS NOT SCRAPING A LIVING!

I don't compare the standards of BG to that of GB,there is no comparison, but I would compare the way the government departments take seriously the rights of people to live untroubled and unaffected by the behaviour of their neighbours, I would compare the way as you call it 'western europe' manages it's affairs compared to BG !
Stop pleading hard up, BG might have been short of funds when it was under the communist thumb, there is money here you just have to look around to see it or have you not noticed any changes in the last 18/20 years even more so in tha last 3 or 4 years? If you think there's not enough money out here then I strongly suggest you get your government to dish out some of ther billions of euro's in grants they've been given to help the mass of the people, increase the wealth of the country not just the ones iwho are n power or are the most corrupt.

'It sucks but people are just not so willing to be cooperative and neighborly when their livelihood is uncertain'.

IT MAY HAVE ESCAPED YOUR NOTICE BUT LIVELIHOODS ARE UNCERTAIN IN AN AWFUL LOT OF COUNTRIES NOT JUST HERE!! THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE CAN JUSTIFY BEING UNREASONABLE JUST SO THEY CAN MAKE A FEW EXTRA LEV...WHY NOT BE REASONABLE AND MAKE A FEW EXTRA LEV? WHAT SUCKS IS WHEN A PROBLEM THAT COULD EASILY BE SORTED AND SOLVED CANNOT BE SETTLED BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON IS UNREASONABLE AND IS HAPPY TO HAVE A DETRIMENTAL AFFECT ON THE LIVES OF MANY AS LONG AS HE CAN MAKE MONEY - NOW TO ME THAT SUCKS.

Great compromise, oh great white hunter you!

OH AND WHITE WITCH SARCASM IS NOT YOUR STRONG POINT BY THE WAY!

#15
percy - 15 Sep 2009 // 00:39:23

MY MISTAKE I MEANT WICKED WITCH NOT WHITE WITCH !

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