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#91
xNELLIEx - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:47:05

Bill

"There's a sharing of bodies and emotions involved which this one-night-stand society will never appreciate."

I am not a fan of one-night stands, but there is quite a bit of sharing involved in them, it is just that the duration of the sharing is much shorter than the duration of a relationship. It is a all the sharing of bodies and emotions compressed into one night. Some of them pan out into full-blown relationships, some don't. If you had a one-night stand with a drunk guy who puked all over you and couldn't get it up, would you return his phone calls? I rest my case.

#92
Bill - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:40:18

DA:

I'll add one other point:

I've worked with many women. They were all professonals and good at the job. We teamed up on every emergency, worked together to help each other when anyone was having problems, picked up the slack when someone was overworked, etc. We functioned as a team.

There was no thought of discrimination or inequality. We were all professionals.

So sex isn't the issue. Behavior is.

#93
Bill - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:35:03

DA:

"thus why you hate me so much"

Wrong. What I dislike about you is your continuous sarcasm. If it were possible to have a calm, decent conversation with you, I'd be glad of the relief, but I see there's no hope of that.

#94
Bill - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:33:08

Nellie:

"Tell that to the men who have sex for fun and then disappear when the GF gets pregnant."

Now THERE'S a point we can agree on--and how! I have no respect whatever for these guys who can't keep their "tool" in their pants.

My view on sex is surely "outmoded" today, but I don't see it as a receational sport. It's something to be shared gently with a loved one, not an exercise in bedroom gymnastics. There's a sharing of bodies and emotions involved which this one-night-stand society will never appreciate.

Going back to things written in old books, this is what is meant by "And the two shall become one flesh".

#95
Devil's Advocate - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:31:39

Bill,
YAWN... You just don't like women they are not "equal" to you thus why you hate me so much. You cannot stand the fact that a (gasp) woman will stand her ground against your sexist ways!

Read nellie's post on modern day feminists and as a working mother- she is right and she is more of an expert than you will ever be on such issues.

#96
xNELLIEx - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:11:04

Bill

"The importance of the mother in the home cannot be overestimated. She's critical to the development of the child."

Agreed. Tell that to the men who have sex for fun and then disappear when the GF gets pregnant. Or tell this to that slut who just had 8 babies in addition to the 6 at home without a husband. The doctor who performed the in-vitro should lose her license. And who can support 14 children, even if they had a father? One of her kids is already autistic, and it is a well-known fact that children born premature have all sorts of develpmental problems later on, mostly with their nervous system. This cow has just created 14 kids who will end up in jail some day.

#97
xNELLIEx - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:03:50

Bill

Lysistrata was written in 411 BC

#98
xNELLIEx - 13 Feb 2009 // 17:02:30

Bill

"As for making life hell, life has been lot more difficult for men since women discovered sexual blackmail. "You do what I want or you don't get any". My response to that would be "OK. If I can't get it from you, I'll go elsewhere"."

I am afraid that this is not a recent development. Are you familiar with a Greek play called Lysistrata? Lysistrata convinces the women of Greece to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands as a means of forcing the men to negotiate a peace, a strategy however that inflames the battle between the sexes. The play is notable for its exposГ© of sexual relations in a male-dominated society and for its use of both double entendre and explicit obscenities.

Oh, and by the way, a modern-day feminist would not be caught dead performing sexual blackmail. Women did it when it was the only way to get what they want. Today women have power, they can do anything they want and they don't have to resort to this type of bedroom blackmail. It is demeaning and insulting to women to be performing blackmail of this type.

#99
xNELLIEx - 13 Feb 2009 // 16:54:31

Bill

"Why didn't I marry? Simple. I didn't find a woman interested in homemaking."

No, it is more like you never met a woman as wonderful as your mother. And you couldn't afford to marry a woman interested in home making, because you were a poor sailor and then you became an impoverished court reporter. What family can afford to live on just one salary these days?

As for raising children, I used to do exactly what your mother did with you - read to her with her in my lap, play the little toes games and dozens more, tell her stories, took her to Disney world 5-6 times, to Hawaii, to Europe - all the while having a full-time career as an architect. I did have help around the house, but I did manage to enjoy both my career and my child. She turned out fine.

#100
Bill - 13 Feb 2009 // 16:31:46

DA:

Has it occurred to you that I grew up in a proper home? I don't claim to be an expert on home life, but I have a lot of experience with broken homes and the results of them.

You're a good example of what a woman shouldn't be: Harsh, overcritical, waspish, snide, demeaning and in general a pain in the ass.

I'm surprised I haven't heard from you sooner. You've always got something critical or snotty to say. In fact you seldom appear on the forum otherwise.

#101
Devil's Advocate - 13 Feb 2009 // 16:28:13

Dutch,
As you can see there is a reason why Bill has never married and had his heart broken a number of times only to have nellie obsess over him. . . He has never been married yet insists on being an expert on homemaking and how women should act...

#102
Bill - 13 Feb 2009 // 15:58:06

Dutch:

Sorry to disagree with you, but the mother in the home is irreplaceable. My mother accomplished things that surprised the school authorities, and that because she loved us and saw to our welfare.

There's one hell of a lot more to homemaking than deciding who does the housework. There is also a great difference between a house and a home.

As for making life hell, life has been lot more difficult for men since women discovered sexual blackmail. "You do what I want or you don't get any". My response to that would be "OK. If I can't get it from you, I'll go elsewhere".

There are so many women nowadays out trying to prove they can do anything men can, and not enough willing to do what only a woman can do. The result is that it doesn't get done, and we have a whole generation of young people without discipline, morals or even the incentive to work for a living.

I worked for years among military personnel, and one of the real problems for supervisors of any grade was constantly getting people in who had never taken an order in their life and didn't see why they should.

Racism has little to do with the fact that the jail populaton has a much higher percentage of minority members than other races. The simple fact is that these people commit most of the crime. What correlates to this is that these folks grew up in an environment which laid no restrictions on them. They ran wild and see no reason for doing anything else. In the military, it's a real problem, because since there is no longer a draft, the services have become a haven for unemployables because educated people simply won't join. During my service time, the draft was in existence, and I worked with some brilliant people. None of that is visible today.

The importance of the mother in the home cannot be overestimated. She's critical to the development of the chld.

#103
Dutch - 13 Feb 2009 // 14:33:02

"Modern women don't stay home and raise children any more"

Sorry???

I take it you're very conservative and very old fashioned, Bill. In your message I read in between lines that you'd prefer women to stay home and men to take care for the financial part outdoors? Sorry, but that is just not right at all!

Gender, color, origin are attributes which at no time and under no circumstance should be of any influence to whatever a person is entitled or wants to do. Besides that.....in modern societies it is practically impossible to live a normal (absolutely nothing fancy) life on only one average salary. Even above average it could turn out to be somewhat tight and difficult....

And last....why is the role of the one who earns the money outdoors reserved for a man. A man is just as capable of doing the household work as a woman, just as a woman is just as capable earning the family income as a man. Men, women, black, white, yellow, red....all human, all equal, all same rights and opportunities. Those who think different are the ones who make this world go to hell....

#104
Bill - 13 Feb 2009 // 10:57:22

Rolli and others:

What the smile is referring to is a game that mothers play with very young children.

The mother takes hold of the big toe on one of the feet and says; "This little piggie went to market".

Taking the next toe she says, "This little piggie stayed home".

Taking the third toe, she says, "This little piggie had roast beef".

Taking the fourth toe, she says, "This little piggie had none.

Taking the small toe, she says, "This little piggie cried wee, wee, wee, all the way home."

Then she takes the kid in her arms and hugs him.

For small children, this is great fun, and my mother used it on all of her children, according to my sister. I know I got a big kick out of it when I was THAT young.

Modern women don't stay home and raise children any more. They drop them off at a day care center and rush off to work. My mother put three children into kindergarten who could already read. Quite an achievement, seeing as she never finished high school herself!

When she read to us, she had us stting on her lap while she held the book in front of us as well as her, so we could follow what she was reading. Who does that nowadays?

Why didn't I marry? Simple. I didn't find a woman interested in homemaking.

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