Please rein in your super natonalism and think in terms of what the courts will have to deal with.
Some of the most guilty people are the best actors. If I remember correctly (always somewhat in doubt), the girl's parents have flown to Rome to seek help from the Pope, and also to Berlin, where Chancellor Merkel didn't receive them. Germany has no interest in this case whatever. (Interest in its legal sense.) That cost a lot of money and certainly put on a good show. The parents obviously aren't poverty-stricken.
This could well be a case of "methinks the lady doth protest too much", if I may draw this comparison.
I saw the mother last night on TV for the first time, and she looked anything but distraught. Well dressed, made up, nicely coiffed--primed for the cameras.
You simply can't start out from a position of "Hey, nice people don't do such things, and these are nice people". Most of the time, it doesn't play out that way--and they don't serve cyder during the interval. It's often that "nice people" approach which is the first mistake. I know a number of policemen, and for the most part they're pretty cynical. They deal with the lower echelons of society daily, and they don't have a batch of illusions about how good people are.
You still don't have to prove your innocence under our laws, but that assumption goes only so far. It's the prosecution which has to prove the elements of the charged offense.
Eurotourist (a Jock, by birth and upbringing, are you not?)...
First you say the parents are not from NORTH OF THE BORDER... then you say only the father is. Your single sentence should have merely been: It is only the father who hails from North of the Border.
I haven't actually heard Mrs. McCann speak... just her hubby, to be fair. His accent is unmistakable so I assumed she was a Jock too... Never you mind!
I still find it reprehensible that anybody could entertain the idea that these two heartbroken people could be suspects in a crime so thoroughly gruesome! Portugal must pay a heavy price for their audacity!
Sir Nutmeg Professor O'Chav
Bloke is obviously too coke-addled to be taken seriously, why does anyone bother to argue with the moron?
The truth will out in the McCann tragedy. There have been many cases where murderers have gone out with public media appeals for help in order to cover their tracks, or because otherwise they'd be trapped in their private hell.
I'm not saying that's what has happened here: only the police and the McCanns know the facts of the case. We'll see what really happened only if a trial takes place.
"You are a sick bastard if you even entertain that idea"
Haven't you been reading the postings recently about the details needed in a court trial and how careful you have to be about them? This "idea" simply has to be considered as one of several possibilities. The sad truth is that there are also a lot of sick parents out there. There are child abuse cases up the ying-yang about that. One of the worst I've seen was where a baby had spiral-shaped burns on its po-po, and it came out in court that its mother had deliberately sat it on the heating coil of the "cooker" (stove to non-Brits) to "discipline" it.
The most sickening trial I was present in was where an angry father had taken a baby by the feet and swung it like a cricket bat against the wall! The pathologist testified that the particular type of skull fracture the child sustained could only have been produced by extreme force. The only known accidental case of it was where a construction worker who was not wearing his protective helmet had been struck by a brick falling from the 8th storey! (Incidentally, this wasn't a child abuse trial. It was a murder trial.)
We must also consider the possibility that the parents sold the child. Not likely, but possible.
Face it, Bloke, there's a lot of sick-o's out there, and no investigating authority is doing its job if it excludes a possibility just because it's nasty. Court work is some of the nastiest that exists, believe me. What comes out in a trial is often so bizarre that you couldn't sell the transcript as ficton, let alone truth.
From the way you have constructed your sentence one would be forgiven if they assumed you were referring to MY folks. I gather you are not but you had me going for a moment for I thought you were attempting to implicate MY mum and dad in this heinous crime!
The McCanns are NOT actually English, for your information. They are from North of the border. Have you not heard them gas yet? Fairly broad North of the border accents, my mate!
They did not harm their little girl! They were reckless for leaving her unattended in the Algavre but they wouldn't abduct their little girl. You are a sick bastard if you even entertain that idea. The Portugeezers are nutters! Incompetent police force. This case would've long since been resolved here in Blighty!
As for Michael Shields... well, since you chose to bring the sound as a pound Scouse fella, I do believe in his innocence until such time as there's concrete evidence (no pun intended) to the contrary, all right? He didn't have a fair trial, of that tere's no doubt. Please read the FTA website compiled by true pros and then draw your own conclusions!
Ding! Dong! Caramel!
Sir Twatface Nougat O'Crustycuntster
So now name-calling is the best you can do? For such an erudite man, that's disappointing! And, of course, your sex obsession has to be written into your "criticism".
I suppose now your English parents are as innocent as Mike? It's all the fault of the investigating authorities? As the report reads here in Germany, the child's blood has been found in the parents' car! In the best of circumstances, that's hardly a mitigating factor!
No, you cantankerous eejit!!!
What Miss Devil's Advocate conveyed (and I apologise if I am misquoting her) is that she has a lot of time for people who have fled Communism (Castro's oppressive regime, in particular). She never ever said that her man was a refugee. She actually stated it was his ancestors who fled Cuba.
Gawd, you are a mong... Bills-up! Why don't you strangle yourself??? You are an insult to insults, ya plonk!
DA's man is as much of an American through and through as you are.
Rose to the bait??? You really are asking for a kicking, son! I've just had a pleasant night out on the lash in Lich after a long day's hard graft and then I log onto this site to read some more of your imbecilic assumptions!
What did Divide by Zero call you? Well, you are an eejit! Big style!
Feck thyself diagonally, kidda..
Sir Nutmeg Professor O'Chav of Scouseland
This reminds me of the BULGER case, most of which facts were never known and will never be known given the official secrets act which most had to sign to prevent the parents from being incarcerated.... so much the same thing
Who is a Cuban refugee?? you are making $hit up, b/c no one I know is a Cuban refugee... My fiance is from America, born and raised! He is 3rd generation American, so why make $hit up that YOU know NOTHING about!
God you are an idiot!
"DA and the WICKED WICH name you an "idiot"
That's what's so funny about their postings. They are all upset because they say I don't like women who stand up for their rights. It looks to me like they can't stand a man who stands up for his against their domination. Funny, isn't it?
DA has already referred to her fiancГ© as "Mr. DA". Not a single sign of "Mrs. Cuban refugee".
I really don't know much about the McCann case. I haven't been following it, because it's primarily a British case, although the "Tatort" is in Portugal. I saw an item on tonight's news (ZDF) to the effect that the Porgutuese authorities ae now looking at the parents; something about the girl's blood being found in the parents' car, but that's all I know.
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