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#11
CJB - 16 Jul 2010 // 13:52:48

"CJB,
Here you sound completely out of your depth."

I think not, maybe I did not explain the position sufficiently and you misinterpreted.

"Burek is not banitsa."

The only difference between what Bulgarians call "banitsa" and what they call "byurek" is a few eggs. Really, this is splitting hairs! It is all variations on Turkish burek, whether you coil it in a spiral, bake it flat in squares or circles, cover it with sesame seeds, add some green leaves or meat, it really makes little difference. It is burek, sorry if this offends some leftover of 19th century Balkan nationalism which seekd to deny any Ottoman heritage.

"Chalga didn't exist before and during communism"

This is debatable. There were musics very similar to Serbian turbo-folk in Bulgaria, which can be regarded as "proto-Chalga" and these were suppressed.

"there was no such an "orientalistic" chalga music that was suppressed during his time. Chalga is more closely related to the Gipsy's music and as such it existed for as long as gypsies were in Europe. ... But as far as Bulgarian music goes they were strictly ethnic and completely outside the mainstream of Bulgarian popular music. The chalga incorporates some of the Bulgarian ethnic music elements and is uniquely Bulgarian and new. Like it or not."

Again, this is just one viewpoint. There is also chalga which takes Greek, Macedonian, even Turkish rhythms and motifs. It is all a big mish-mash really.

"Another point: Educated and cultured communists and their offspring is an oxymoron."

Not really. The top echelons of the Communist cadres were often quite well educated, at least from 1960s onwards. They studied in Moscow or Leningrad, later on they sent their kids to Paris, Vienna, USA to buy Western education at the finest academies (stolen) money can buy. You can meet these people in Sofia or in the West, they are often involved in the arts or business.

"Where did you get this ridiculous idea that peasants and proletariat were disdainful upper class--cultured and educated?"

I never mentioned class, I just talked about education.

"Village people had their regional songs and dance music that has a beauty well appreciated all over the world by professional musicians. And it was promoted by the Communist's Government. Nobody can deny that."

I was not denying the beauty of traditional Bulgarian folklore, even its Communist inspired "operatic" modern version (eg. Mystery of Bulgarian Voices) is quite astonishingly wonderful. In fact it is some of the best "official art" that the Communist system produced, and Western musicians recognised it some time ago as excellent.

Chalga, or rather its prototype versions, existed underground and was suppressed exactly because it was "decadent", "lewd", "oriental", "gypsy", "low brow", "vulgar", insufficiently "Bulgarian": all the same critiques that "cultured and educated" Bulgarians use today!

#12
CJB - 16 Jul 2010 // 11:35:05

I know you Sea Slugs don't hear so well, being underwater and everything. Let me repeat my request below. I can't wait to hear your echo (answer).

"will clearly see the sharp rise of the Bulgarian exports to Greece when the first signs of the crisis appeared. The downfall in 2009 is just back to the pre-crisis level. I also could explain you why, but why should I make an effort to educate an idiot like you?"

Oh do explain, this should be entertaining. The sea slug school of economics, we are all waiting. Will it be as good as Paul the Octupus, we wonder?

#13
CJB - 16 Jul 2010 // 10:59:39

Sorry I meant gibanica.

#14
CJB - 16 Jul 2010 // 10:54:33

I just used banitsa as an example to show the absurdity of trying to say this is Bulgarian music or not.

If you ask a Serb, they will say banitsa is Serbian (they call it gabanitsa), if you ask a Turk they'll say it is just burek.

It's the same with chalga, there are similiar musics across the Baslkans, this is just the BG variant. Oh, and it was suppressed by Bai Tosho as "orientalist", around the same time he was forcing Bulgarian Turks to change their names, hence maybe why the "educated and cultured" (ie. Communists or their offspring) regard it with disdain!

#15
CJB - 16 Jul 2010 // 10:42:40

Is that the nest you have to offer, Sea Slug?

Pathetic! Nothing but the clunking sound of the hollow skull you made your home as you slither across the bed of your slime encrusted fish tank.

#16
CJB - 15 Jul 2010 // 22:44:28

SNA, the headline should be "Certain Bulgarians Close To The Socialists Won Big from Energy Contracts with Russia", this is surely the truth.

#17
CJB - 15 Jul 2010 // 22:40:15

Zhelko,

Kremikovtsi was not just mismanaged, it was all wrong. Wrong location, hundreds of kilometers from the sea and/or the Danube where iron ore and steel can be easily transported. Slap bang in Sofia, belching out sulphur dioxide and heavy metals into the air and water and poisoning everyone in the city. Wrong economicaally, it has never been profitable, it did not even fit well within Comecon priorities.

Let's face it, the plant was simply an exercise in prestige from Bai Tosho and his cadres of apparatchiks, a symbol of Bulgaria's "virility".

Bulgaria should focus on agriculture, especially bio/organic, and do it properly if that's at all possible for the society. The world needs good quality food! It does not need yet another steel plant.

#18
CJB - 15 Jul 2010 // 22:17:49

"I'd stick my neck out and say that most Bulgarians don't give a tinker's cuss for chalga, since it's seen as garbage music enjoyed by No-necks."

"Educated, cultured people stay as far away from it as possible. "

You realise that the majority of Bulgarians are not very well educated nor cultured? Those that are, comprise a tiny, mostly urban minority. The others, don't live in Bulgaria any more!

"Chalga is a Macedonian or Serbian invention. It came to Bulgaria from some other part of the Balkans"

I'm afraid it is very Bulgarian, though it has similarities of course to Serbian turbo-folk, Greek folk pop, and Turkish pop music. "Chalga" literally means to play music in Turkish. Face the reality, we may not like it but it's as Bulgarian as banitsa.

#19
CJB - 15 Jul 2010 // 17:55:13

On the "reliability" of Bulgarian statistics relating to international trade. Here is a lesson from recent history:

"The data pointing to sanctions breaking came to light because of a
unique situation in Bulgaria. Bulgaria was in a process of rebuilding
a democratic system after decades of repressive communist rule. The
economy was in transition from communism to a market system.
Economic agents lacked the sophistication to conceal immense un-
derground economic activities, especially in the sphere of interna-
tional trade. Political instability and corruption reduced the incentive
for economic agents to conceal such activities. In addition, govern-
ment officials had little experience at constraining underground ac-
tivity. Moreover, as Renwick (1981) observed, economic sanctions
could be painful to trading partners and neighbors of the receiving
country. Bulgaria was already undergoing a severe recession as a
result of the collapse of Comecon and compliance with the sanctions
imposed on Yugoslavia would have made the situation unbearable. "

http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj22n3/cj22n3-8.pdf

Incredibly analysts found a mismatch of billions of dollars between what BNB was reporting and what customs officers were reporting!

No doubt the Bulgarian smugglers and money launderers have grown in sophistication since the early 1990s. Nowadays they run "legit" corporations like TIM...

But the lesson holds true: wherever there is a large inflow of goods and/or capital investment into Bulgaria, opportunities will be taken to indulge in "underground" activities. Perhaps these were better hidden during the recent "boom" in BG.

#20
CJB - 15 Jul 2010 // 17:10:41

Fausten,

It seems your skull is so empty and hollow it is just like an echo chamber, except my words echo around all the nooks and crannies in your congenitally deformed head until distortions come back out, among the repeats.

Input: "Arbeit macht frei"

Output after Fausten hollow skull echo chamber processing: "Sieg Heil" AND "Arbeit macht frei"

Hmmm. Some form of low-level intelligence at work, enough to distort the signal and add a fictional component. Maybe something equivalent to a sea slug or other disgusting mollusc is inhabiting this empty skull?

"Too bad you do not understand to read and interpret statistics, just like some of the SNA 'experts'. But anyway. Just what we know from you already..."

You touching faith in statistics produced by corrupt and chaotic regimes borders on the lunatic.

"Anyone who is a bit past your idiocy"

You see, the echo chamber again.

"will clearly see the sharp rise of the Bulgarian exports to Greece when the first signs of the crisis appeared. The downfall in 2009 is just back to the pre-crisis level. I also could explain you why, but why should I make an effort to educate an idiot like you?"

Oh do explain, this should be entertaining. The sea slug school of economics, we are all waiting. Will it be as good as Paul the Octupus, we wonder?

"And by the way, I thought the Bulgarian statistics isn't worth anything, as you preach again and again, LOL."

Echoes, echoes. Oviously reading is not the sea slug's strong point. Read the report again, it cites Greek statistics. Not that these are any more trustworthy than their Bulgarian equivalent...

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