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This article has been published at the "Unfiltered" column of the Bulgarian news agency BGNES.


Bulgaria is a paradise for investors. I have been trying to convey this message everywhere in the world for years.

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#1
peterperfect - 3 Dec 2012 // 12:12:26

" we are in a market, a highly competitive market in which the investor evaluates a lot of indicators in order to make a choice. The first one of those is the respective country's image, what people say about it, what the business sector says about it, and its forecasts for the years to come."

Read this man, he talks sense. Take his words to heart all you politicians and take the right moves to eradicate (as far as possible) OC and corruption in this country. It is these two things that are the major cause of Bulgaria's bad image.

#2
Hairydave - 4 Dec 2012 // 00:40:19

Maxim makes some valid points - however I think his pre-occupation with negative headlines is misplaced. There are plenty of negative headlines about countries where investors flock. It's a non issue.

Thee problem is not the headlines, it is the reality.

Corruption is rampant, and the bureaucracy is astonishing. Dealing with the basics is terrible. Utility companies are horrendous. They don't have any concept of customer service. The government's need to have a form and an official stamp on everything, which then knocks through in to the private sector - is mental. And so it goes....

In my humble opinion what the country needs is a few "bright young things" to form new, stable, political groupings. Not political parties that are vehicles for the latest big character hungry for power. It's not a new politics, groupings will inevitably peel off to left and right, but form them around a set of ideas - not around a person.

Then, maybe, some of these deep seated problems may start to be addressed. Or then again, maybe not!

It is a great country - and I see plenty of people working hard day in and day out. Needs a bit of a tidy - but then where doesn't?

#3
Chushki - 4 Dec 2012 // 12:56:39

Hairydave is right, corruption has a large impact on potential investors - and its not surprising when a quick look at Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index shows corruption in Bulgaria has been steadily deteriorating since 2002, so that now the corruption problem in Bulgaria is worse than in countries like Colombia, Ghana and Saudi Arabia.....

#4
Ivanko - 4 Dec 2012 // 20:14:53

If corruption would have any impact ... Why are all big Western companies then active in China and rest of Europe?

#5
Chushki - 4 Dec 2012 // 20:44:48

Its simple Ivanko - risk v reward

The rewards for doing business in wealthy but corrupt economies like China, far outweigh the risks. The reward part of the equation in Bulgaria just doesnt make it worthwhile doing business here once the risks have been fully evaluated.

#6
Ivanko - 4 Dec 2012 // 23:49:44

"The rewards for doing business in wealthy but corrupt economies like China, far outweigh the risks. The reward part of the equation in Bulgaria just doesnt make it worthwhile doing business here once the risks have been fully evaluated."

The risk is very low in Bulgaria. The investments needed are very low compared with the rest of the world.
China is one of the biggest risks that you can find. A completely other culture in a nation that is set to concur the world and will copy all of your products and sell it cheaper.

You are a bulshit speaking parrot who knows shit.

The real reason is that Bulgaria had (and still partly has) an elite leading the country which is not part of their elite group.
With Boyko this changed. They did not even care (seeing the leaks reports) that he apparently (according to their reports) is one of the biggest maffioti in BG. Still Boyko is only a frontrunner which has to clear the path for the ones coming. He will realise that too in a few years.

EU has destroyed Bulgaria old school to buy everything up for nuts and then they make their own people the ones who cash in everything.
The same in East Germany and many other places.

Bulgaria absolutely is a good location for investments. Very low risks, low investments, good schooled people, cheap labor, no unions, stabil financial environment and plenty more.

If you are so well known with the situation then please explain your big risks for companies producing here.

Please, no 10 year old arguments.

#7
Chushki - 5 Dec 2012 // 16:27:33

Poor Ivanko, completely missing the point.

Clearly investors dont share your esteemed opinions on the risk v reward situation in Bulgaria, compared fro example to China. Perhaps you should start consulting multi-national corporations who I am sure would benefit from your erudite views, political nous and economic prudence.

#8
Ivanko - 5 Dec 2012 // 21:24:04

Chuski chuski, are you saying that most companies going to China are successful over there? (most fail, loose their products to copycats and do not ever consider again going back there. Only the real big ones have a chance in China, the rest will be eaten alive)

Great Wall is the first Chinese car builder in Europe.
Zheely could be considered the first one but they just are managing volvo.

So, if you are saying that those Chinese are such smart people and that they are the people to do business with ... Why do these Chinese choose BG instead of all those other countries?
And more Chinese coming next years.

Oh yes, maybe they also considered the lower labour costs compared with China(up to 10-20% lower in BG). Lower taxes too.

And did you know that China is paying more or the same for very capable people then they can pay in Western Europe?

Bulgaria is a very good place to invest. If you did not notice, every year you see more and more companies bringing office and production to here.
But hey, you probably live in a Gypsy quarter and I can imagine nothing much changed there.

Off course this needs time. Such things do not change in a few years. Every year it grows, and every year it grows faster.

#9
Chushki - 6 Dec 2012 // 09:01:24

Ivanka, look at the figures before making such ridiculous statements.

Foreign direct investment is huge in China, because despite the risks the rewards are also huge (the clue is in the sheer scale and potential of a market that is rapidly modernizing and to take advantage of thev1.3 billion person population and its sizable and growing middle class which demands foreign goods and services). And if you did your homework instead of stealing electricity to provide lighting for your gypsy hovel then you would see that foreign companies are successful in China, which is why FDI in China is huge.

Your example of Great Wall in Bulgaria only goes further to underline your ignorance and inbreeding. The reason Bulgaria was chosen by Great Wall is not because of all these highly skilled workers that Bulgaria has, no establishing a production base is their way of getting fast tracked into the smaller, but potentially lucrative European market, whilst paying the lowest salaries.

You mention "Bulgaria is a very good place to invest. If you did not notice, every year you see more and more companies bringing office and production to here" - again I suggest you do some homework instead of spending your time stealing metal. FDI into BG is almost half that received by Romania, its just 30% of that received by Hungary and 20% of that received by Poland. even Croatia, a non-EU country gets more FDI that BG. These are facts, not your deluded tziganin interpretation of the world.

#10
Ivanko - 6 Dec 2012 // 17:05:21

Chussssskkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkiiii

Romania + 20.000.000 people, 240.000km2
Bulgaria + 7.000.000 people, +110.000km2

Hungaria, great example. Why not mention Greece too?

All those countries you are quoting are bankrupt, were saved by IMF or others and in Hungary they even stole the private pensions from the people.

Like I said, Bulgaria is stable. Those countries can start a civil war any moment.

Also funny to see negative article about bank funding going down.
Largely replaced by deposits... Which means, if this continous it will be Bulgarian banks funding other countries in the future.

China, you know shit about China.

IF Bulgaria would have had balls last 3 years and they would not have cutted so drastically but instead had more invested it was a booming country and this at the time there is worldwide one of the biggest crisis in hunderd years.

Now I'm going to feed my donkey and my goats, they sound a bit like you. Funny but absolutely stupid animals.

#11
Chushki - 6 Dec 2012 // 20:50:54

Ivanka, you really are a retarded drama queen, who fails to accept the reality of the facts presented which are backed up real figures and statistics. Instead you drunkenly ramble on with your conspiracy theories and ignore the obvious questions which are why any of the countries I cite have much higher FDI than BG, and have a nuch higherbstandard of living than BG. Whilst I applaud your claims that Bulgaria is a virtuous, non-corrupt country which possesses the best educated workforce in the world, the fact is you should really concentrate on growing tomatoes and lay-off the rakia.

#12
Ivanko - 6 Dec 2012 // 23:43:25

Was that the rakia that was talking or are you getting a little excited from this discussion?

I'm sorry but any company that chooses Hungary above Bulgaria is doomed to fail, sooner or later.
IF you say Hungarians are better off then Bulgarians then there is something wrong in your head.

#13
Chushki - 7 Dec 2012 // 19:25:09

Poor baba Ivanka - I suggest she puts down the bottle for a moment and accepts the facts.

ALL of these indices that measure standard of living/quality of life rank Hungary (and the rest of Europe) above Bulgaria:

http://www.prosperity.com/CountryProfile.aspx?id=100
http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp
http://www1.internationalliving.com/qofl2011/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Complete_list_of_countries

But according to baba Ivanka this can be dismissed as lies and a conspiracy cooked up by "counter-revolutionaries" and "imperialist dogs" aimed at discrediting Bulgaria.

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