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Commenting article: Russian Maker of MiG-29s Could Challenge Bulgarian-Polish Deal for Jets’ Repair

Russian aircraft corporation RSK MiG has said it could challenge an agreement for the repair of Bulgarian Air Force MiG-29 jet fighters by Poland because the deal violated the company’s rights.

“The agreement between Bulgaria and Poland not only contravenes the norms of international law and the established practice in military aviation, it also runs counter to the principle of ensuring the safety of flights,” TASS quoted the Russian manufacturer of the warplanes as saying in a statement on Thursday.

“We are considering a possibility to challenge the agreement in view of the obvious encroachment on our rights as the developer and manufacturer of MiG aircraft.”

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#1
Rurik - 26 Oct 2015 // 18:41:15

....liberation, liberation, sorry :)

#2
Rurik - 26 Oct 2015 // 17:45:22

Yeah, yeah, PZL fighters & bombers ...and the occupation of Poland by Germans with their Messerschmitts (wihat a non-respect to PZL ;) and the following deliberation of the same Poland by those damned Russians with their
IL-2(Schwarzetod), Yak, Po, La....and, again, MiG(Mig1 and Mig3)!!! And Google will help - sure/may be - to realize who "stays where" and , say, who saved Poland from the Nazis.

#3
SpekDamage - 26 Oct 2015 // 17:12:37

test

#4
Warfou - 26 Oct 2015 // 16:06:55

Everyone (educated) knows also Kopernik, Chopin, Sienkiewicz, Reymont, Wojtyla, Walesa and some more. PL had good aircraft industry prior to WWII (PZL brand). Bulgarian pilots of that time were flying PZL P24 fighters and P43 bombers. They outmatched Soviet analogues (I-15, I-153). After the war, communist Poland was forced to by Soviet equipment, such as the MIGs and PZL had to concentrate on training airplanes. Comparing countries by personalities doesn't bring much, Google View is a better&easier option to judge who stays where ;-)

#5
Rurik - 26 Oct 2015 // 13:33:34

"MIG's officials do not understand the very basics of civil law. If you get a product you can do whatever you like with it..." ------ooh, those MiG' officials, the team of dumb - bells, they are of the idea that "you can do whatever you like" only if doesn't violate the terms and stipulations of the relevant contract ;)
And sure "Polish technical and social culture had always been much more advanced than Russian", everybody knows such glorious Polish names as Mendeleev, Pavlov, Gagarin, Dostoyevsky.... and the same Mikoyan, father of the MiG Corp. To the Polish advanced culture, toast ;)

#6
Warfou - 26 Oct 2015 // 10:30:38

Throughout the centuries, Polish technical and social culture had always been much more advanced than Russian, and so it is today. Speaking of "cheap Polish mechanics" who earn 3x more than their Russian equivalents is a nonsense.

MIG's officials do not understand the very basics of civil law. If you get a product you can do whatever you like with it, including repairs or modifications. But if you do this on your own, you loose the warranty rights by seller/manufacturer. There are no more warranty rights to get lost in this case because the Bulgarian MiGs are rather old and the warranty expired. It is in fact as simple as if you would buy a car. After purchase you can do what you want with it, it is YOUR car.

Poland still uses 30 MiGs 29 renovated on its own. With better engines and PL/US/Israeli avionics they are still good to serve as a second line, after the F16s.

#7
viking - 26 Oct 2015 // 01:13:59

Was nine years ago the moderator kicked me off
Then let me back on
Have had the same nick now since 2005

#8
Rurik - 24 Oct 2015 // 19:44:31

No chance to reply directly, sorry, Vik ;)
So, let me not remind my previous nick. It was many years BC or, better, BM(Before Moderator;)

#9
viking - 23 Oct 2015 // 23:39:47

Hello to you
Who are you?
I do not keep up on all these nick changes.
too old for that, I can hardly remember my real name

#10
Rurik - 23 Oct 2015 // 20:27:01

Long time, Vik...glad to hear You again. Agree with You, but why not to wait and enjoy the expected (or unexpected ;) results of the Polish-Bg cooperation? ;)

#11
viking - 23 Oct 2015 // 17:48:01

Rurik
": I don't understand the so nervous reaction of the MiG Corp.' authorities."

I think it is possible the reason they do not want this done is If the MiG-29's start falling out of the sky because of improper maintenance by unqualified mechanics the manufactures will be blamed, not the mechanics from Poland working cheaper and not certified.

Just a thought

#12
Rurik - 23 Oct 2015 // 12:01:31

Sorry, Jerry, but it's sooner "a clear example" of Your ignorance ;)...The story is not about "Russian mafia" but about international norms and rules. Look, in order to repair the MIG engines, any factory (the Polish WZL2 and WZL4, in particular ;) must have the relevant license/permission from the MiG Corp. No one Polish factory has it. Also: to repair MiG engines and to repair "Kalashnikov" differ a bit ;). And finally: I don't understand the so nervous reaction of the MiG Corp.' authorities. Why not to "close eyes" and to wait till the results of the repair works at the Polish factories? ;)

#13
Jerry - 23 Oct 2015 // 03:28:21

What happened to the great Bulgarian legal minds?

It seems to me their is no difference between a repair of a Bulgarian Kalishnokov or a MIG.

Here is a clear example of Russian Mafia or Corruption for rights in MIG Tech.

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