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Commenting article: Sofia Mayor Pledges to Open Jewish Museum

A museum dedicated to the Jewish culture is to be opened in Bulgaria's capital Sofia, its Mayor, Yordanka Fandakova, announced.

Speaking to students from the Sofia University, Fandakova revealed that the idea for a Jewish museum was born when she was still a Deputy Mayor responsible for education, but the project was put on hold due to the lack of an appropriate building.

However, a building has been found now, she said.

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#1
ankle - 6 Jun 2011 // 15:09:55

Sorry to disagree here. According to your logic all museums should be closed as 'not useful'. They may not be 'useful' in the sense that they produce food or housing, but maybe Bulgarians could learn a bit more about their own history and culture.

DrFaust,

With respect I didn’t advocate closing all museums on the grounds of them being useless and fully agree that museums are a great source of information and entertainment for all ages.

The basis of my argument is that out of nowhere we get this announcement from the Mayor and it seems on a personal whim not by collective consultations. Another example of the laisse faire attitude by all and sundry in the GERB party also affiliated mayors.

Motivating the Bulgarians is more difficult and I don’t think that a museum will do that, even if it does show their cultural past and history through the ages.

I think the best way is to keep attacking the politicians etc when possible, but feel that some times it like “ flogging a dead horse” and I’m not into necrophilia!

#2
DrFaust - 6 Jun 2011 // 14:25:50

ankle,

"In these times of austerity a Jewish or any other museum seems un-necessary, spend the money on something that would be more useful!"

Sorry to disagree here. According to your logic all museums should be closed as 'not useful'. They may not be 'useful' in the sense that they produce food or housing, but maybe Bulgarians could learn a bit more about their own history and culture.

I have never met any people, even in the Balkans who think they know so much about their history - and who know in fact so little like the Bulgarians. The only thing most Bulgarians know about the history are the lies that they were and (are still today) taught by teachers educated in a Stalinist society and based on manipulated curricula and textbooks. No wonder that so many Bulgarians don't really know who they are. They don't know where they come from, and what is their culture and history.

The planned museum is for sure not high on the agenda, but it would make completely sense. And if you look at on what the Ministry spends its budget (sending Ali Baba and his 40 call boys to Italy; investing millions in a 'Bulgarian Louvre' for which there are no exhibits and which is just an expression of the megalomania of certain government people who think of yoghurt when they hear the word 'culture'), it would be an easy task to finance this and other important museums.

You can be sure that the municipality has also many not used suitable locations for such a museum; the exhibits are already available; cut down the budget of Bozhidar 'Chalga' Dimitrov's museum (where you find until today only the ridiculously manipulated version of 'history' that suits this criminal) and you can have a first class museum that would attract even many foreign visitors.

#3
DrFaust - 6 Jun 2011 // 14:13:50

ankle,

"Surely it was very simple for the Bulgarian authorities… if you were Bulgarian and Jewish you were saved. If you were not Bulgarian ( say Macedonian) and Jewish, your fate was sealed !"

You are right.

The interesting thing here is: all citizens of Macedonia that were until then citizens of Yugoslavia (including ethnic Turks and Gypsies) got the Bulgarian citizenship after Macedonia was handed over to Bulgaria. The only exception were the Jews. They received a train ticket to Treblinka instead. That is what some naive(?) people until today call 'saving the Jews'.

It was by the way part of the deal between the Nazis and the Bulgarian government. And it was Bulgarian authorities which were exclusively responsible for the logistics of the extermination. Would the Bulgarians not have been so greedy for territory, the blood of the Macedonian Jews would not be a stain until today on the Bulgarian people.

#4
ankle - 6 Jun 2011 // 09:40:33

Dr Faust

Surely it was very simple for the Bulgarian authorities… if you were Bulgarian and Jewish you were saved. If you were not Bulgarian ( say Macedonian) and Jewish, your fate was sealed !

#5
ankle - 5 Jun 2011 // 23:22:25

One proof more that such a museum is necessary. I am just afraid that it will be again a place where Bulgarians celebrate mainly themselves as the "saviors of the Jews" - forgetting minor details, such as the fact that it was Bulgarians who hunted down the Macedonian Jews for the killing in Treblinka.

In these times of austerity a Jewish or any other museum seems un-necessary, spend the money on something that would be more useful!

#6
DrFaust - 5 Jun 2011 // 22:17:25

"През февруари 1878 година в разгара на военните действия временно населението на града намалява почти наполовина и по данни на общината е 11 694 души, от които 6560 българи, 3538 евреи, 839 турци и 737 цигани."

That makes more than 30% Jews of Sofia's population in 1878, and in almost all relevant layers of society (culture, administration, commerce) they had a clear majority.

#7
DrFaust - 5 Jun 2011 // 22:08:49

Obviously none of you 'experts' is aware of the fact that Sofia was a mainly Jewish city in the late 19th and early 20th century.

One proof more that such a museum is necessary. I am just afraid that it will be again a place where Bulgarians celebrate mainly themselves as the "saviors of the Jews" - forgetting minor details, such as the fact that it was Bulgarians who hunted down the Macedonian Jews for the killing in Treblinka.

#8
MysteryHP - 5 Jun 2011 // 20:44:13

:) wELL, looks like no one on this newsgroup is much interested in such a museum,,,hope the mayor reads this site as well. Please don't waste our funds Ms. Mayor!!!!

#9
BULERICAN - 5 Jun 2011 // 16:48:29

Author: MysteryHP, 4 Jun 2011 22:19:40
Sofia Mayor Pledges to Open Jewish Museum

What the hell is this about? THere are hardly any Jewish people in Buglaria. Why in the world do we need a museum for a religion?

I see that a few people in here still do not know the difference between

Jewish (the people)

and

Judaism (the religion).

#10
ankle - 5 Jun 2011 // 14:58:00

pk

The reason...to atrract theJews (and all the other intelectual elite Bulgarians who
left) to come back to Bulgaria and make it a BETTER place...

I’m not sure how having a Jewish Museum in Sofia is going to bring back the Bulgarian intelligentsia?


Philippe

The owner of this website is Jewish. That's why it is in (his) news. That simple

It answers the question as to why it’s maybe a news item, but not the main one…. Why is the mayor doing it ?

#11
Philippe - 5 Jun 2011 // 13:34:23

The owner of this website is Jewish. That's why it is in (his) news. That simple!

#12
pk - 5 Jun 2011 // 12:31:58

The reason...to atrract theJews (and all the other intelectual elite Bulgarians who
left) to come back to Bulgaria and make it a BETTER place...

Way to many low level-apathetic-complexors make up the majority of people AND politicans............

#13
ankle - 5 Jun 2011 // 08:39:52

How do such stupid people make there way to high positions in the Buglarian government structure

The answer to your question is very simple… they can because they are unchallenged and nobody stops them. The Bulgarians just don’t care so it’s easy for the politicians to do what they want.

Apathy rules here!

#14
MysteryHP - 4 Jun 2011 // 22:19:40

What the hell is this about? THere are hardly any Jewish people in Buglaria. Why in the world do we need a museum for a religion? This is cazyness. What an utter waste of public money and resources. Next will be museums for Mormons, Jehova's, Budists, etc, etc, etc. How do such stupid people make there way to high positions in the Buglarian government structure.

#15
hercules - 4 Jun 2011 // 21:42:43

It would be very interesting to hear why the Mayor has chossen a Jewish museum for Sofia?

If a building and funds are available why not have a museum that is about Bulgaria and not about the history of the Jews ?

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