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Commenting article: Van Orden Disappointed by Bulgaria's Corruption Fight

Threats against any democratically elected politician were defined as outrageous by the former rapporteur for Bulgaria and British MEP, Geoffrey Van Orden.

Van Orden, who spoke in an interview for the BGNES news agency, stated that the problem must be eradicated immediately in order for Bulgaria to have true democracy. The Member of the European Parliament (MEP) spoke in connection with the recent possible assassination plot uncovered by the Bulgarian Secret Services, targeting the leader of Bulgaria's rightist opposition party "Order, Law, Justice" (RZS), Yane Yanev.
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#1
NellieotAmerica - 10 Mar 2009 // 03:08:45

Resi

"SHOULD HE LIE AND SAY THAT THERE IS NOT CORRUPTION IN BG?

I do not see ANY SUPERIORITY IN HIS OPINION!


TTHIS IS HIS JOB and he was interviewed."

Agreed. Gosho is just getting misty eyed and sentimental about Bulgaria because he hasn't been there for a while.

#2
NellieotAmerica - 10 Mar 2009 // 02:50:21

Gosho

"EU and reps, if you want results and solutions, which you are considering possible and reasonable for 21-century Europe, help by sharing your knowledge and experience/expertise and try guiding the one in need with your sources and cooperation."

For once I agree with you. What is needed is accountability, management skills, computerized information management systems and honest people. That last one is hard to come by in Bulgaria, more's the pity!

#3
George Zheliazkov - 10 Mar 2009 // 02:31:47

Resip,

We need SOLUTIONS and not just mindless opinions and disappointments.

Like I said it’s painfully well known by everybody that Bulgaria has corruption and organized crime problems but the way to solve it is not by getting disappointed by periodically checking the levels of it (as an appointed rep).

In order to get some results, the biggest EU critics and the appointed representatives should try to offer their experience, accumulated knowledge and effective solutions (anti-corruption laws etc…), that have been in effective practice in their countries and with the help of the Bulgarian government should try to adapt and efficiently implement them in Bulgaria.

So this is my opinion:
EU and reps, if you want results and solutions, which you are considering possible and reasonable for 21-century Europe, help by sharing your knowledge and experience/expertise and try guiding the one in need with your sources and cooperation.

Lead by example and not by disappointment!

#4
resipsaloquitur - 10 Mar 2009 // 00:59:16

Hey,Georgi,

HAVE READ THE ARTICLE AT ALL?!

The man is a former reporter for BULGARIAN AFFAIRS at the EU.

HE WAS INTERVIEWD BY A BULGARIAN NEWSAGENCY AND ASKED TO EXPRESS

HIS OPINION ABOUT THE CORRUPTION IN BG ...


NOT the UK!

hE IS SPEAKING IN HIS ROLE AS A MEMBER OF THE EU.

So...why are you soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sensitive?

SHOULD HE LIE AND SAY THAT THERE IS NOT CORRUPTION IN BG?

I do not see ANY SUPERIORITY IN HIS OPINION!


TTHIS IS HIS JOB and he was interviewed.

#5
NellieotAmerica - 9 Mar 2009 // 18:12:36

Dutch boy

"Only the parts in which racism and profanity live seem to be operational in your case."

I strongly disagree with this ad-hominem attack. Why is it OK for you to hate Hitler but not OK for me to hate blacks, Islam and Russian communism for the exact same reasons - personal suffering?

It is my right as an American citizen to post whatever the hell I want to the 'Net (as guaranteed by the 37th Amendment, I think). Anybody who tries to limit my posting is either a communist, a fascist, or both.

By saying that I've posted racist and profane posts you have libeled me, slandered me, and sodomized me. See you in court, Dutch boy!

#6
Dutch - 9 Mar 2009 // 17:53:19

In no way it was intended to be an architectural lesson, just an observation I made which any one with half a brain could have made. Besides, I utterly sukc at teaching and even worse, I have no patience whatsoever to teach brainless people. And since you prove time after time to be part of that group......
Only the parts in which racism and profanity live seem to be operational in your case.

#7
DP - 9 Mar 2009 // 17:50:13

“I do agree with George that no culture is better than another. However, for sure some nations are more successful/stronger than others. Although of course their strength rises and falls. The US won't be number one for ever, just like the Greeks weren't and the Egyptians weren's and the Roman's weren't and the British Empire wasn't etc etc.”

It is not a question of one culture being better than another. Common sense dictates that each culture is unique and the “better” or “worse” comparison means little. The Greatness, Strength or Successfulness of any Culture has to be measured in terms of its impact on the grand scale of human civilization. The Greeks and the Egyptians have been gone for a long time but their legacy lives in the Modern world. In some sense we all can claim “I am a Greek, Egyptian, etc...” except if God created a second batch of nincompoops recently...LOL

#8
NellieotAmerica - 9 Mar 2009 // 17:32:12

Dutch boy

Thanks for the Architecture lesson. Dripping with irony.

#9
Dutch - 9 Mar 2009 // 17:16:12

"Most ultran modern buildings are built with ultra modern technology. The ones here are built using 19th century technology - at least they are in Plovdiv."

That's why I said "hyper modern "looking"". I'd prefer an old style looking, eventually new built, building with state of the art techniques inside. Especially since those modern looking ones don't fit in the environment. Imho city centers should be untouched when it comes to the look of buildings, in order to preserve the original characteristics of a city. Removing old buildings from a city center to make space for modern looking ones is like ripping the heart out of a city.

Just visit the Bulgaria-->Varna section of the following website http://www.skyscrapercity.com/

There you can see which ugly new constructions they have been and still are dumping around in Varna.

In Holland they unfortunately are making more or less the same mistake....beautiful old buildings with great historical value get ugly modern additions/wings (e.g. Kurhaus in Scheveningen, Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam). Absolutely awful....

#10
NellieotAmerica - 9 Mar 2009 // 12:41:38

Someone deleted my hate crime!

#11
Robin - 9 Mar 2009 // 11:44:40

"Unfortunately here in Varna, especially in the recent years, they are killing the charm and the uniqueness of this BG city by constructing hyper modern looking buildings which can be found in any big city in the world."

Don't agree with "can be found in any city in the world". Most ultran modern buildings are built with ultra modern technology. The ones here are built using 19th century technology - at least they are in Plovdiv.

I do agree with George that no culture is better than another. However, for sure some nations are more successful/stronger than others. Although of course their strength rises and falls. The US won't be number one for ever, just like the Greeks weren't and the Egyptians weren's and the Roman's weren't and the British Empire wasn't etc etc.

#12
van4eto - 9 Mar 2009 // 11:30:03

To Dutch,

This is unavoidable. We live in the 21c. and the buildings and the infrastructure cannot be expected to look like the ones from the beginning of the 20c, for example. What about the old wing and the new wing of the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam?? Even for a non- expert like me it is a torn in the eye!

#13
Bill - 9 Mar 2009 // 10:49:23

Dutch:

I'm with you on this one. Progress isn't necessarily improvement, and in too many cases not.

#14
Dutch - 9 Mar 2009 // 10:35:04

"Sadly enough the American multiculturalism did not open your horizons and did not widen your spectrum; on the contrary it made you a limited lost character without any particular heritage and roots, a rude, inhumane and vulgar self-destructive racist and chauvinist in tiresome hopeless search of self discovery."

I couldn't have said it better.....however I have doubts whether American multiculturalism actually exists (or is permitted to exist). I think in Europe better examples of multicultural societies can be found.

As for the architecture.....as George said, it can not be seen apart from culture. Go to Koprivshtitsa....it's absolutely beautiful and does the job perfectly for those living there. A 21st century, hyper modern building would not fit there. Take one of the structures found in Koprivshtitsa and place it any city outside BG and it would be out of place as well.

Unfortunately here in Varna, especially in the recent years, they are killing the charm and the uniqueness of this BG city by constructing hyper modern looking buildings which can be found in any big city in the world. If that's what they call progress, I don't like progress........

#15
kolegialenotamerica - 9 Mar 2009 // 04:34:57

That Bulgaria intentionally fails again and again to fight corruption is a well known fact. The western world hopes that by pointing this fact out and giving directions and money, the Bulgarian government would finally do something about it, instead of promissing to do so. And the Bulgarian government will be in trouble all the time unless they start delivering. The main problem with Bulgaria is that the totally corrupted government is not used to being monitored and asked for strict explanations of his actions or non-actions. And let's commit to the subject as presented by the title: I Am Disappointed by Bulgaria's Failure to Fight Corruption....Can anyone deny this fact? Aren't you disappointed yourselves?

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