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Commenting article: Bulgaria's World Skating Champ Staviiski Kills 1 in Drunk-Driving Crash

Bulgaria's world ice skating champion Maxim Staviiski, who survived a car crash on Sunday night, has actually caused it by drunk driving.

This resulted in the death of one man Petar Petrov, 24. Another young woman, who was travelling in the same car as Petrov, is in coma. Two other people, who were involved in the chain crash, were seriously injured.
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#1
Honterus - 9 Jan 2008 // 09:29:41

"- Austrians are Aussies,"

Is it not Australians instead of Austrians ?

#2
Honterus - 9 Jan 2008 // 09:26:18

Dirk

"BTW "ossies" is an expression used from BDR for DDR inhabitants.
- former East-Germans or DDR are Ossies
- former West-Germans or BDR are Wessies"

I know that. Within the context I just extended the "Ossies" meaning to all Eastern Europeans from ex-communist countries.

#3
Dirk - 8 Jan 2008 // 19:29:35

Honterus,

=> I did not say that all Romanian policemen are honest and do not take bribes. Some take bribes some don't. Blaming all policemen without exception is not credible. Giving bribes is a legal offence as well as receiving it. Don't give them bribes. You'll see that you can manage without. I drive on a daily basis and have not given a bribe for ages ( some 8-10 years).

I haven't met an honest policeman yet. So I don't lie or exagerate with my claim.

=> Claiming something like: "I haven't met any Bulgarian that isn't up for a bribe." (or Romanian or Serbian) is far from credible as well. It is - however - insulting.

Truth hurts

=> For obvious reasons I cannot be an imitator of Johannes Honterus but I appreciate his deeds. This is why I choosed this nick.

understandable he was good

=> If your sole purpose is to insult and be "nasty" with them Ossies you are doing a great job.

I thought you were "nasty" on me, so I returned the favour. When you weren't sorry.
BTW "ossies" is an expression used from BDR for DDR inhabitants.
- former East-Germans or DDR are Ossies
- former West-Germans or BDR are Wessies
- Austrians are Aussies,
- Balkans are Balkanies,
etc

#4
Honterus - 8 Jan 2008 // 13:44:22

Dirk,

I did not say that all Romanian policemen are honest and do not take bribes. Some take bribes some don't. Blaming all policemen without exception is not credible. Giving bribes is a legal offence as well as receiving it. Don't give them bribes. You'll see that you can manage without. I drive on a daily basis and have not given a bribe for ages ( some 8-10 years).

Claiming something like: "I haven't met any Bulgarian that isn't up for a bribe." (or Romanian or Serbian) is far from credible as well. It is - however - insulting.

For obvious reasons I cannot be an imitator of Johannes Honterus but I appreciate his deeds. This is why I choosed this nick.

If your sole purpose is to insult and be "nasty" with them Ossies you are doing a great job.

#5
Dirk - 8 Jan 2008 // 07:16:51

Johannes Honterus imitator,

I noticed this mostly in Romania, where Police deliberate park in a zone where labels are lacking or out of sight. Then follow you, in order to get a bribe or other alms.

#6
Rollingstoned - 7 Jan 2008 // 23:54:26

Hi Honteros,

Obviously, it's obvious, that you, are trying, to dig up dirt, on Dirk.

Come on Honteros, Look at the ratio of posts, to the views of this thread.....

Counting mine it's something like 10,428 to 22

This horse is DEAD!

#7
Honterus - 7 Jan 2008 // 23:10:15

Dirk,

"I haven't met any Bulgarian that isn't up for a bribe.
I noticed the same in Romania and Serbia."

Obviously you are exagerating and this clearly lowers your credibility.

#8
Taro - 7 Jan 2008 // 15:49:36

This argument with the low payment for policemen and other state employees is so old as corruption is. Fact is, that this seems quite logic and cozy, because then the responsibility for corruption is taken away from the individual to the system/government/society etc.

But if this would be the reason for corruption why are also rich people corrupt? Well paid politicians and entrepreneurs? Or big firms like Siemens? Or developed country like Japan.

One of the reason is, because everybody does. If a policeman would decide not to take bribes and follow the law, he would see his collegueas buying new cars or apartments while he can feed his family. If one firm doesnВґt offer bribes to the decision maker, the other firm will take the order.

But maybe the policeman f.e. are responsible themselfes for their low incomes because of corruption, the money from penalties owes to the state remains in the pockets of the policemen.

ItВґs a vicious circle.

One step forward would be to stop the double moral, everybody in BG complains about corruption in their country, but mostly because nobody offers them a bribe. And in the moment when they get caught by the police they donВґt hesitate to put a 20lv bill into their driving license.

The big problem also is that both parties are has a favour by corruption.

Greets
Taro

#9
Dirk - 7 Jan 2008 // 08:24:25

resipsaloquitur,

"The Bulgarian police men are paid so miserably that the only way to support their families,is to take bribes."

It is inherent to Bulgarians to be corrupt. Bulgarians only want to be rich fast and always take a bribe. I haven't met any Bulgarian that isn't up for a bribe.

I noticed the same in Romania and Serbia.

#10
resipsaloquitur - 6 Jan 2008 // 18:27:42

I was in the car of a friend in Cyprus and she received a call on her mobile phone.

She answered it and immediately she was stoped by the Police and got a fine for
50 Cyprus Pounds,which is more than $100,-

She had either to pay cash or by check,otherwise she was not allowed to continue driving.

The policemen are NOT corrupt because they get about 700-800 CYP per month.

The Bulgarian police men are paid so miserably that the only way to support their families,is to take bribes.

The Bulgarian Government ought to increase the salaries of the civil servants.

The other way to avoid corruption is to file criminal charges against perpetrators.

#11
bradlyjhill - 3 Jan 2008 // 04:48:23

yes please

#12
kenney - 7 Aug 2007 // 06:05:47

Prisoners all over bulgaria are praying he goes to jail, it's so hard to get a blonde.

#13
just me - 6 Aug 2007 // 20:08:57

Dearest Kolega,
I don't usually like to correct people, but instead of "butt-ugly, fat and Asian...." I think you meant "butt-ugly, fat OR Asian...." or maybe even "butt-ugly, fat AND/OR Asian...."?

That way you can include as many people as possible in your insult. Wouldn't you hate to leave out the Mexicans, the gays, or any of the other "Americans" living in the area? ;)

Love,
jm :)

#14
Kolega - 6 Aug 2007 // 19:21:49

AL:
"I spend a lot of time here, and I love it. But there are things, I just cannot accept."

There is always something Al.
If there was a perfect place, we'd all wanna be there, and it's "perfect" statute will last 3 minutes exactly.

I just came back to San Fran, where everyone is very polite, drives "nicely" but is also butt-ugly, fat and Asian....
20 people commented on my $80 shoes from Bulgaria already:"cool shoes"! ... not from Wall-Mart I guess"
It feels like that song "Back in the USSR".

BTW drunk drivers kill everywhere.
Don't use facts to justify your feelings about BG.

#15
Dutch - 6 Aug 2007 // 14:26:41

"And that other drivers will think twice the next time they want to drink their rakia and drive afterwards."

That is only wishful thinking. Drivers here in Bulgaria can only be changed if the fines will be set very high and, more importantly, enforced without any exception (so no mafia, city council, police privileges).

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